Warlord's new Italian Wars supplement and Swiss in 28 mm

[Kitsune]

Book is v welcome news and will be getting it. Was v v disappointed with the ECW book though, so it being the same author makes me a bit wary and preparing for a similar approach. Hopefully not, though.

[Von Trinkenessen]

Sad news.What's going on?
Some of the worst,laziest sculpts I have seen in 53 years of gaming, not helped by a rushed paint job and how much am I expected to pay for them!  A missed opportunity.
Poor show, poor show chaps.

[bluechi]

The Landsknechts used the Katzbalger and the Reisläufer the Schweizerdolch.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Schlacht_bei_Dorneck.jpg/1024px-Schlacht_bei_Dorneck.jpg

[Legiox217]

The Landsknechts used the Katzbalger and the Reisläufer the Schweizerdolch.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Schlacht_bei_Dorneck.jpg/1024px-Schlacht_bei_Dorneck.jpg

Bits like this are exactly what I was searching for, thanks. I just finished Ospreys Landsknecht warrior book and it was excellent! Top tier “warrior” book. They aren’t all as good as that one. Fascinating stuff IMO. Really got a feel for the period and the organization. I got a kick out of one of their demises being inflation, as their pay was unchanged for nearly a century. My first thoughts wandered to how many instances there would have been of promises of “bonuses” outside of extra pillaging, but then I imagine they were largely happy to be getting paid at all!

Can anyone recommend the Helion books? They’re running a sale now and I’m interested in the new Italian Wars “wargaming” book and the rest of the series on the wars. Fornovo is up first and thought I’d start there, but it’s quite a rabbit hole with 5 volumes and another 5 or so related titles. Figure maybe I’d dip my feet in with the wargaming book and volume 1
Cheers

[Axebreaker]

Nobody actually does a range of Italian Wars swiss that I know of.

Actually the venerable Old Glory does a pretty good job of almost getting there. The sculpts are not Steel Fist or Foundry quality, but imho pretty darn good for the price point and the posing is very convenient for large formations if you want a sense of movement. Worth a look at. They can be purchased at 25mm under Old glory and 15/18mm under Blue Moon.

As for Warlord I wonder why they didn't just hire Hicks for the Swiss since his Landsknechts were fantastic! Should of just handed Hicks a bundle of cash and said please continue on with your Renaissance sculpts please.

Christopher

[bigredbat]

I wrote the battle part for Ceresole in the Helion Italian Wars Volume 4, so I reckon that is quite good.  ;-)    It is a really interesting battle that is very wargame-able.   

[Legiox217]

I wrote the battle part for Ceresole in the Helion Italian Wars Volume 4, so I reckon that is quite good.  ;-)    It is a really interesting battle that is very wargame-able.

Cracking stuff! Thanks for the suggestion and your contributions. I am sure I will get to it eventually then - I've got a couple of the non-volume titles in the cart (really interested in Peasants Revolt and Landsknecht facing off with Reisläufer), so I'll likely add volume 1 to work my way towards your portion...though the bundle is tempting
Cheers

[Rochejaquelein]

Those Swiss seem like a real missed opportunity.

Nobody actually does a range of Italian Wars swiss that I know of.

I don't know how accurate they are as my knowledge on the Swiss is limited, but I managed to stumble on these. They look more "modern" than Steelfist/Perry so maybe they would be appropriate for the Italian Wars. Armored and Unarmored pike, crossbowmen, handgunners, and command.



https://www.myminifactory.com/users/LudusBellum?show=store&categories=2814

[nickdives]

Started to paint the new commanders, lovely figures, but on the table next to some Steel Fist Gendarmes they look like they are riding ponies.

[Dubbya]

Aw man, that chainmail looks like on bad 1/72 models. There's certainly better on 15mm, even 10mm models (exaggerated sculpting, but still clearer as to what it is).

The book itself sounds interesting, I'll keep an eye out for reviews.

[Paul Hicks]

As for Warlord I wonder why they didn't just hire Hicks for the Swiss since his Landsknechts were fantastic! Should of just handed Hicks a bundle of cash and said please continue on with your Renaissance sculpts please.

Christopher
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Not enough cash in the world. Take the piss out of my work once, they’ll do it again.

I’ll never critique another sculptors work. I’ve had it happen to me before. Might even been the same sculptor as the Warlord Swiss.

Thanks for the kind comments. The Fondry range I fell in love with when it was released. Painted a fair few to go in my WFB Empire army. Steel Fist are a joy to work for. I’d be interested to see the book.

[Ockius]

Can anyone recommend the Helion books? They’re running a sale now and I’m interested in the new Italian Wars “wargaming” book and the rest of the series on the wars. Fornovo is up first and thought I’d start there, but it’s quite a rabbit hole with 5 volumes and another 5 or so related titles. Figure maybe I’d dip my feet in with the wargaming book and volume 1
Cheers

Always worth checking as Helion's 'Men of Warre' book on gallowglasses is one of the worst books I own. It reads like it was written by a C-grade sixth former and never proof read. I am almost sure it wasn't proofread at all.

[OB]

Worth knowing on the Gallowglass book Ockius. Thank you.

I have the first 4 Helion Italian Wars volumes. I thought they were interesting and made good use of Italian sources. Nice colour plates too. I'm glad I bought them.

I don't have the wargaming one.

Helion never proof read anything. They will publish pretty much anything. There is no quality control in terms of content.

On the other hand they have published some great books, their production values are good and so is their customer service.

It is wise to look out for authors you know and like  and for reviews.

[Axebreaker]

As for Warlord I wonder why they didn't just hire Hicks for the Swiss since his Landsknechts were fantastic! Should of just handed Hicks a bundle of cash and said please continue on with your Renaissance sculpts please.

Christopher


Not enough cash in the world. Take the piss out of my work once, they’ll do it again.

I’ll never critique another sculptors work. I’ve had it happen to me before. Might even been the same sculptor as the Warlord Swiss.

Thanks for the kind comments. The Fondry range I fell in love with when it was released. Painted a fair few to go in my WFB Empire army. Steel Fist are a joy to work for. I’d be interested to see the book.

Oh didn't know that. Steelfist already has quite a few very nice things in their range, but it needs more.....and yes I know wargamers could always use more.

Christopher

[commissarmoody]

Right, the steel fist line needs some Tudor dolls with plate and German river over their jackets.