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Offline David Cowper

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Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« on: 12 July 2025, 10:18:08 AM »
I recently bought a League of Augsburg allied army pack from Pendraken miniatures at their Games Day, despite never having played the period or in 10mm before. Which rule sets do people recommend?

Offline OB

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #1 on: 12 July 2025, 11:24:26 AM »
I like Beneath the Lily Banners by Barry Hilton. In 10mm just use more figures per base. I imagine it will look very impressive.

Offline Aughrim1691

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #2 on: 12 July 2025, 11:39:28 AM »
I use the 10mm Pendraken figures for the Jacobite war in Ireland. I decided to use Beneath the Lily Banners but slightly increase the number of figures per base. Each infantry base having 8 figures (giving 32 figures per battalion unit including 1 pike base) and cavalry 4 figures per base (8 per squadron). Although it's only a small increase I feel that it gives each 'unit' a more realistic look whilst still making it feasible to field lots of units.


Offline David Cowper

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #3 on: 12 July 2025, 05:11:32 PM »
Thank you both for your suggestions.

Offline rct75001

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #4 on: 13 July 2025, 05:27:06 AM »
I'm having a good hard look at GaPa.  I Like what I see from a read - need to try it out still though
http://rctlittlesoldiers.blogspot.com/

And she said to me "You haven't bought more little men have you ?"

Offline Hwiccee

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #5 on: 13 July 2025, 09:21:27 AM »
We use the Twilight of the Sun King rules for this era. It is aimed at fighting real battles, and not the 'skirmishes' of other rules, with a reasonable amount of resources and in a reasonable amount of time.

There are also 4 scenario books for the rules.

https://www.wyrehistoricbooks.co.uk/sun-king

Offline Sandinista

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #6 on: 13 July 2025, 10:25:47 AM »
I love the Pendraken LoA range, I have 1000s of them. The LoA flags they sell were designed by me. As for playing, I use Pike and Shotte, gives a good game and plays well as a solo game, which I often tend to do.
Cheers
Ian

Offline SJWi

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #7 on: 13 July 2025, 11:07:39 AM »
I am slowly building  "Williamite Wars" Protestant and Catholic armies using Pendraken 10mm, and plan to use "Beneath the Lily Banners; The War of the Three Kings", although my armies are still in the raw metal! I know that Simon Miller who wrote the "To the Strongest" ancient/medieval and "For King and Parliament" ECW rules is currently writing and play-testing a set called I think "Lust for Glory", which will cover circa 1670-1748, but may also take in the Seven Years War. I don't know when they will be released but I suspect Spring next year. The beauty of Simon's rules is that they don't require any set basing so anything I base for "Beneath the Lily Banners" should be good for "Lust for Glory".

Regards   

Offline David Cowper

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #8 on: 14 July 2025, 12:33:09 PM »
Thank you everyone. I’ve bought Beneath the Lily Banners.  I’m a complete beginner to the scale soo this is going to be a bit of an adventure for me.

Offline fred

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #9 on: 14 July 2025, 12:40:50 PM »
The LoA figures are lovely little sculpts - one thing I will say for painting 10mm figures, is remember you are painting units for an army, not individual figures - otherwise you can spend a lot of time on tiny details that aren't going to be visible.

Offline SJWi

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #10 on: 14 July 2025, 01:52:18 PM »
Fred, thanks for the reminder. With 6mm I adjusted my painting style a lot to paint units rather than individual figures. I will confess the extra detail and individual castings makes reverting to painting style quite tempting. I must resist!

Offline fred

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #11 on: 14 July 2025, 05:56:00 PM »
I think you will find that the LoA figures have that much detail they will take longer to paint than others 10s - I know they have been a super slow burn project for me (not helped by not having an obvious rule set to use, and having to do both sides). But they are super lovely once painted up.

Offline SJWi

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #12 on: 15 July 2025, 05:44:31 AM »
Fred, you and I are in the same boat. I too can get none of my mates interested so am building both sides. Which rules are you looking at?

Offline fred

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #13 on: 15 July 2025, 07:20:56 AM »
Rules wise I'll likely wait for a FKaP supplement as we really enjoy these rules.

Offline Hwiccee

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Re: Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?
« Reply #14 on: 15 July 2025, 09:10:01 AM »
Here are some shots of my French army from a few years back. I am afraid I never got round to taking some of my Confederate army and others I had. I have more now so at some point I will have to get round to taking some shots of them now.

 

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