Shipping to US (from UK or anywhere else) after 29 August...?

[HerbertTarkel]

Today’s the big day. Enjoy, America!

[Rick]

Yes, that's how I read it too...

I just checked the RM site again this morning, and the new system still doesn't seem to be up - in fact, it's looking like right now you can't buy online postage for ANY destinations other than the UK! In the drop-down menu, where you normally find all the country options listed, currently the only option available is United Kingdom...

Who would have thought it, eh? A Royal Mail IT system that doesn't work properly...?   

Jon

Royal Mail not delivering to a set deadline?

Unthinkable! 

[Fighting15s]

It's up on the basic Send service at https://send.royalmail.com/

Basically adds 10% and a 50p service charge. Couldn't verify whether the 10% was added to postage correctly.

Still not available in my Click and Drop account, where services to the US are still suspended.

[HerbertTarkel]

Royal Mail not delivering to a set deadline?

Unthinkable! 

To be fair, TACO Tuesdays were a thing: there was a pretty solid chance Trump would chicken out, or change what was happening, as he is so fully erratic.

Why make contingencies when the odds are there’s something else going to happen?

[Rick]

To be fair, TACO Tuesdays were a thing: there was a pretty solid chance Trump would chicken out, or change what was happening, as he is so fully erratic.

Why make contingencies when the odds are there’s something else going to happen?

Because this was likely to happen in one form or another no matter what happened within the US government: the pendulum had swung towards global supply, which favoured cheap labour areas, it is now swinging back again towards national interests - chances are that the pendulum will swing a few more times yet before it settles down to the 'new normal'. The more things change and all that! 

[pixelgeek]

Because this was likely to happen in one form or another no matter what happened within the US government: the pendulum had swung towards global supply, which favoured cheap labour areas, it is now swinging back again towards national interests

One of the economists behind the Project 2025 paper has written extensively about reshaping the current global economic system to get it back to US control. Or more US control than they previously had.

From his paper (https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf) you can see that what he has been recommending is using tariffs as a way to stop other countries from not using the US dollar as a standard currency as well as to wrest production from other countries back to the US.

Trump may not be able to keep an opinion from day to day but the Project 2025 folks have been working on this agenda for a long time and are quite eager to use Trump to ram it through.

Hence Trump's fixation on the Federal Reserve. Trump probably can't spell the phrase but the Project 2025 folks are desperate to reduce the impact of the Fed. They also have wanted to get rid of the de minimus exemption for a pile of reasons.

TLDR; Trump's opinion on these issues isn't important

[pixelgeek]

If I was in the US I would be worrying about the customs people not knowing what they were doing and how to properly process parcels.

[Rick]

One of the economists behind the Project 2025 paper has written extensively about reshaping the current global economic system to get it back to US control. Or more US control than they previously had.

From his paper (https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf) you can see that what he has been recommending is using tariffs as a way to stop other countries from not using the US dollar as a standard currency as well as to wrest production from other countries back to the US.

Trump may not be able to keep an opinion from day to day but the Project 2025 folks have been working on this agenda for a long time and are quite eager to use Trump to ram it through.

Hence Trump's fixation on the Federal Reserve. Trump probably can't spell the phrase but the Project 2025 folks are desperate to reduce the impact of the Fed. They also have wanted to get rid of the de minimus exemption for a pile of reasons.

TLDR; Trump's opinion on these issues isn't important

Many people, in the US and elsewhere, have Trump living in their heads and just will not see that the man is not very important; he's a figurehead for several different groups who may be important themselves for the effect they will have on the US, but not Trump.

[Cosmotiger]

If I was in the US I would be worrying about the customs people not knowing what they were doing and how to properly process parcels.

Yeah, it's already happening. I pledged for the Satanic Panic Miniatures metal shields Kickstarter, and when I got my package about 2 weeks ago, it had been manhandled, re-taped and had a "Opened and Inspected by US customs" label applied. Parts were rattling around loose inside the box. 

I've been ordering minis and hobby stuff from outside the US since the 90's, and this is the first time I've ever gotten notice that my packages have been opened and inspected. 

[Chris Abbey]

Sally 4th has just reinstated shipping to the UK.
US Import Tariffs will be calculated and added to orders being shipped to USA as part of checkout process.

[FifteensAway]

And the newest twist in this story today is a U.S. federal appeals court has declared that the tariff's as imposed violate the US Constitution - but more or less stayed against any action until October so the U.S. Supreme Court can weigh in.  This should get interesting since the justices main job is to uphold the constitution - not interpret it, though they certainly do that for good or ill.  I'm no legal beagle but it is pretty clear to me there is no national emergency in existence that justified presidential action on tariffs - or that such power is even allowed under the (Smilleridiocracy) emergency language being abused. 

So, I suspect a lot of international business will be on hold for another month and a week or two. 

Me?  I have two orders, both U.S. based companies shipping to my U.S. location, in transit and then - as far as I know at this time - there is nothing else I need to add to any of my many miniatures collections.  Which means, at least on a hobby level, the tariffs don't really affect me. 

But...will this moronic mess tip the entire world into a recession or worse?  And I hope that is law and business, not politics (if I went there...

[Rick]

Whether or not the tariffs violate the US Constitution, the other point to consider is that the US Supreme Court has been scrupulous in setting boundaries between the law makers (POTUS and congress) and law interpreters (the courts system) - overturning several long-standing legal precedents simply because they created a new law by their use. The US Supreme Court will have to decide whether this is an interpretation of the US Constitution, an interpretation of the law as it stands or if the courts are creating a new law by intervening in the law-making process at this level.
Pass the popcorn, please, this may be worth watching! 

[HerbertTarkel]

Per FifteensAway:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/29/trump-trade-tariffs-appeals-court-ieepa.html?__source=androidappshare

Source - reliable one.

[Rick]

Per FifteensAway:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/29/trump-trade-tariffs-appeals-court-ieepa.html?__source=androidappshare

Source - reliable one.

Hmm. A 7:4 majority ruling is not an unqualified success - 4 judges ruled that the IEEPA could support the tariffs and that the plaintiffs couldn't make a strong enough case against them. It will be VERY interesting when this gets to the US Supreme Court.
I think I'm going to need more popcorn. 

[pixelgeek]

Per FifteensAway:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/29/trump-trade-tariffs-appeals-court-ieepa.html?__source=androidappshare

Source - reliable one.

The tariffs will stay in effect until Oct 14th. And the Supreme Court will probably let them stand.