Shlyk on Papakha - How Common in Ukrainian units?

[thestoats]

Hey guys, I’m wondering how commonly  the shlyk was worn on papakhas in tue UNR. Was it universally worn? Did certain formations prefer it over others? What kinds of colors would they be? Additionally, was it worn only on civilian papakhas or also the standard-issue papakhas from the Russian army? Thanks!

[cuprum]

Such hats (and often completely uniform, stylized under the historical Cossack Ukrainian clothing) used the parts of "Haydamaks".
The historical meaning of the word:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haydamak

During the civil war in Russia, the volunteer units of Ukrainian nationalists were often wore such a name (and uniform).
For the first time, Schlyk during this period appeared on the headdresses of the so -called "serozhupanniki (Gray uniforms)" - the First Rifle Cossack division, formed by Austria-Hungary from Russian prisoners of war in 1918.
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Around the same time, the Germans formed two divisions of the "Sinezhupanniki (blue uniforms)" from the Russian prisoners. Their blue uniform was also stylized under historical Cossack clothes, but the slide was pinned to the fur cap of cockades. These troops, alas, in reality did not take part in hostilities and were quite quickly disbanded.
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Famous Ukrainian regular military units that had such a uniform during the war:

Black Zaporozhets -  A small elite formation of about 300 horsemen and 200-300 infantrymen and artillery battery:
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Gaidamatsky Kosh Sloboda Ukraine (3rd Gaidamatsky Infantry Regiment)
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Soldiers "Black Gaidamaki Kuren" and "Red Gaidamaki Kuren" from this formation.

In fact, there were quite a few similar formations, their uniform was distinguished by a variety of options (everything depended on the imagination of the commanders), but they were rarely numerous. In the game you can create small, but well -motivated, elite parts of volunteers.

The Russian soldier’s papa of the imperial army was different in design from traditional papai and I do not know examples that “Ukrainian” papachi with slaps were made on its basis. I think there was no particular need for this, and such hats were made without the need to redo something.

[thestoats]

Thanks cuprum, I really appreciate you sharing your expertise! Were papakhas worn mostly within these haidamak-style units or were they common in formations that had more orthodox uniforms? Obviously that picture of Petliura with UNR troops in Kiev in May 1920 shows that the Ukrainian-style papakha with shlyk was worn with standard-issue military clothing, but was that the case beforehand as well?

[cuprum]

What photo are you talking about? The 6th division of the Sich Riflemen of the UPR took part in the 1920 parade. Most of them definitely did not wear a papakha with a shlyk...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_Sich_Rifle_Infantry_Division

[thestoats]

Sorry Cuprum, I've attached the photo I was talking about in this post

[cuprum]

Your photo dates back to 1918, when Petliura's troops captured Kyiv and overthrew the power of Hetman Skoropadsky.

By 1920, the bulk of nationalists had already "played enough" with the uniforms of museum samples and looked quite modern.



Presentation of the ensign to the 6th Sich Infantry Division of the UPR Army by Chief Otaman Simon Petlyura. Berdichiv, 1920 r.
This is the same division that took part in the parade in Kyiv in 1920. Both Petliura himself and his fighters are wearing a completely different uniform.

By 1920, the Ukrainian army looked something like this:

[thestoats]

Thanks for the correction Cuprum. I'm hoping to wargame the campaigns of Spring and Summer 1919, so how would the UNR look at that point?

[cuprum]

It all depends on what military units you want to depict. I think you can choose anything - everything was possible.

[thestoats]

Thanks Cuprum, I'll put up a post asking for more information about two battles I'm considering. I would love your input!

[cuprum]

I will be glad if I can help in any way.

[Mark of the West]

Another topic of great interest. I have found it easy to use generic 15 mm units for any Ukrainian army (Peter Pig mostly) but the unique units very tough. I have some blue-uniformed Sich units (as per above) based on Peter Pig RCW with fur cap, and several battalions of western Ukrainian from Peter Pig Austrians and some Minifigs (don't like the poses). Here attached are few weak attempts at some other figs (old Freikorps 15mm, new PP Cossacks), and a mix of figs with Ukrainian flags as command stands.  Wish we had more options - they had very interesting units. I re-read Bulgakov's White Guards novel and the section on the fictional parade of new Ukrainian units parading through the city had me jotting down all the units I would like to create!

[cuprum]

Very good!