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Offline Rubber Duck

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Hi,

I just started to think about making a scenario based on Fritz Lang´s "M".
For this I need Minis for the german 1920-30 Police with the Shako helmets and also these "little fishes" criminals of the "Ringvereine"witz flat caps, braces and of course a blind balloon seller :-)
Any suggestions?

Thank you
Volker
« Last Edit: 02 June 2010, 11:47:38 AM by Rubber Duck »
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I would also like to find suitable German policemen for the 1920s. I need them to supress Mr H after his Beerhall coup. The closest I have found is to use German WW1 Jaegers. They seem to have the right shako but the rest of the gear might be a bit more militaristic. Maybe we could chop off the shako head and use it on some other body?

Offline Hammers

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I would also like to find suitable German policemen for the 1920s. I need them to supress Mr H after his Beerhall coup. The closest I have found is to use German WW1 Jaegers. They seem to have the right shako but the rest of the gear might be a bit more militaristic. Maybe we could chop off the shako head and use it on some other body?

West Wind makes Zendarian type constables. It sounds like you could go with Copplestone:

http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/gn13.jpg

..or Pulp Figures...


Offline Rubber Duck

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Those copplestones are great.
thank you.
But getting 1920 policemen seems rather hard.

Offline Aaron

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These are the Westwind "politzi".



Available from Westwind here: http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2_19&products_id=60

I have no clue how accurate they are, but the headgear seems close.

Offline The Gray Ghost

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West Wind has some London thugs that I use with both Copplestone and Pulp figures.
I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and what is it seems weird and scary.

Offline argsilverson

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I have no clue how accurate they are, but the headgear seems close.

They are acceptable!
Mind also that the german police of 1920's had a peculiar green shade
argsilverson

Offline Rubber Duck

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Hm, to me the hats don´t look loke a german shako helmet.
In addition, I would prefer minis wearing greatcoats.

But thanks a lot for your effort so far.

Volker

Offline von der Tann

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Hey ... sadly I have no idea what miniatures to use for German police officers during the "roaring" twenties. But I found some pics.







Now, the first two pics are from policemen pre-3rd Reich, while the next two are from the 3rd Reich era. The last picture is a shako star, worn by the police of the city of Stettin during the Weimarer Republik (1919 - 1933). Since police (at least the guys you see on a daily basis) fall under the jurisditction of the Bundesländer (countries, i.e. Bremen, Bavaria, Berlin etc.) they all had slightly different uniforms (for example the shako stars).

Maybe this will help you to find some miniatures or even sculpt our own heads with shakos. Google will show you lots of details on shakos, even German police ones. Hope this helps.
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Offline carlos marighela

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Your best bet would be conversions, using as other folk have suggested, a Jaeger shako. IMO the most accurate depiction of such are the Geat War Miniatures versions. For simple beat cops you could just use officer figures or swap the shako heads onto Artizan or Eureka's police. Eureka has a version in cape BTW.

Worth remembering that during the Weimar Republic most of the larger German cities also kept battalions of Security Police, who were in effect a gendarmerie or reserve military force and whilst they were uniformed as police they were equipped as troops, with machine guns and armoured cars. Standard WW1 Jaeger would pass muster for these without any real modification.
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Problem is that most of the Great War and Renegade Jaegers have backpack. I guess the police wouldn´t have that...

Offline Rubber Duck

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and furthermore i need Minis without rifles.

Offline carlos marighela

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Head swaps it is then.

Offline Funghy-Fipps

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Is it just me, or does anybody else find it weird that no companies produce dedicated miniatures for the German Revolution-period?  I mean when one considers all the interwar conflicts covered by specific miniature ranges  - from the RCW (okay, WW1 overlapping) through to the Italian Invasion of Abyssinia and the fictional VBCW - it seems rather neglected.  Certainly there would be no shortage of AFVs to choose from!  I for one would very much like to see miniature representations of the Freikorps Werdenfels:



1920s German police would be excellent, too!

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Is it just me, or does anybody else find it weird that no companies produce dedicated miniatures for the German Revolution-period?  I mean when one considers all the interwar conflicts covered by specific miniature ranges  - from the RCW (okay, WW1 overlapping) through to the Italian Invasion of Abyssinia and the fictional VBCW - it seems rather neglected.  Certainly there would be no shortage of AFVs to choose from!  I for one would very much like to see miniature representations of the Freikorps Werdenfels:


Agree! this period has great potential!

 

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