WHFB 8

[rob_the_robgoblin]

Oh you bugger   

cheers

James

Only on Thursdays. 

I have an old slann army and I currently use Lizard men plus spawning for the various slann warrior casts. I use the skink entry for my jungle braves and scouts. The Trogs would make good Kroxigo if I had any. Human slaves though are slow and crap so Skinks isn't a good fit.

I've yet to meet anyone who's seen it that doesn't think Warhammer Armies is the best supplement ever for Warhammer.

Awesome, I'd love to see it! Not sure how you could fit Human Slaves into it then really.

I guess I really like the Warhammer Armies book just because of how different it is to the new stuff. I have seen loads of the modern stuff and there is precious little of the old stuff.
I will be jumping with joy if and when the Eastern parts of the Warhammer World fill out a bit more. They are on the map and mentioned in various snippets of background, so one can hope! 

[leadfool]

One advantage of playing empire is the human race never disappears from the warhammer world, sure the Norse are an indangered species as are the nipponese but empire humans are always there.  The figures also can be used in historical games/armies.  I have raided my empire collection to field, pirate armies, conquistidors, 100 years war, cossack wars (kislevites) etc.  The army lists over the years have frequently altered exactly what I can bring and how many, but never such that I can't keep fielding armies.  Of Course it helps that my painted empire is a little over 850 figures, not counting Norse/Vikings.

I still miss 3d edition armies for their size and flexibility.  Of course for playablitiy I use "rules that shall not me named."

I got the white dwarf that promos the rules and they do look good.  I thought it was funny that there are now magic spell cards, much like 4th edition.

[joroas]

Of course for playablitiy I use "rules that shall not me named."

Which are?

[Ramshackle_Curtis]

Warhammer armis was a great book, I loved the illustrations for the unit entries.

[rob_the_robgoblin]

Warhammer armis was a great book, I loved the illustrations for the unit entries.

Same guy who did the Original Flintloque artwork, dontcha know? 

[leadfool]

The rules that shall not be named are .......TACTICA,  Which years ago I added a fantasy element and called them Ylrac.  But just using Empire figures on both sides and playing the straight historical fights, say Swiss vs Imperialists, is a lot of fun.  Especially if you increase the army sizes, to say all the figures you own.

[joroas]

Well, I went into see it all today, luckily I wasn't stopped, as usual, by one of the eager staff, so I wasn't lured into buying it straight away.  It looks good and the reports are good.  I even liked the new widget, not sure I need the templates or measuring stick.  So, will part with readies at Maelstrom, I think, as I won't be at a show until Newbury.......... 

[rob_the_robgoblin]

Yup, good man. The templates aren't necessary at all.

Another nice point on the rules. They are mostly laid out like this:

Title of specific rule i.e. 'Channelling Power Dice'
A simple description of how the rule works, just to jog your memory if you are already familiar with the previous set of rules
In normal text, a detailed and broken down description which looks like it has been very carefully written. A lot of the new rulebook looks like it is there to slap power-gamers wrists!
In italics, there is usually an example

If required, there is also a diagram.

Bloody excellent I thought. I hate looking through a rulebook for a rule and finding I have to read a double page spread just to find one small thing!!!!

[OSHIROmodels]

Got mine today 

Slightly dissapointed in the fact that there weren't really any new terrain pictures that haven't already been seen in one form or another, but hey, there you go 

I agree woth Rob on the rules though. As a person who really doesn't like reading them  they are laid out rather well and I don't think it'll tax me too much to reference what we're looking for.

Ill certainly be reading it in the bath tonight 

cheers

James

[Argonor]

they are laid out rather well and I don't think it'll tax me too much to reference what we're looking for.

Well, they'd better be. This is their 8th attempt.....

[leadfool]

Just from reading the white dwarf revied, they look to encourage BIG units which is great.  I don't know but it still looks like it encourages super characters though.

[Argonor]

Just from reading the white dwarf revied, they look to encourage BIG units which is great.  I don't know but it still looks like it encourages super characters though.

Of course it does = buy more minis + buy all our exorbitantly expensive characters.....

[Alfrik]

Looked at the prices for the heroic characters, I think we need a new word for "exorbitantly" , something bigger... Love the mini's, but wow.

[rob_the_robgoblin]

Of course it does = buy more minis + buy all our exorbitantly expensive characters.....

Big units doesn't mean more miniatures necessarily. It means more unit fillers. In fact, they even suggest it themselves. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=11500017a

I have been considering some unit fillers for my armies. Idols of Gork (or possibly Mork) in my Goblin regiments, Ogre slave masters in my Gnoblar units and giant oathstones in my Dwarf regiments.

Big units make the game look more 'warhammer'. 3rd edition units were MASSIVE and I think this is important. You can now add more character and USE more of the stuff you have in normal games. i.e. more rare choices like Giants.
Special characters are still limited, normal characters are easier to add to the army as well and yes, they may be just as important as they always were but I think big units really make all the difference now.

Now shut up and play nice. 

[Argonor]

I don't see any fewer minis used in there???

And you're not going to get me to quit commenting on GW's tricks to get people to spend more and more on a game that has always been cumbersome, slow, and filled with rules contradictions (not necessarily the rulebook itself, but as soon as the varoious armybooks start to emerge...).....