WHFB 8

[joroas]

Yay, 16 pages and still going strong.................... 

[joroas]

No, I tricked it into 17................ 

[OSHIROmodels]

Right then, just a quick question.

Reading the weapons page, spears fight in an additional rank, OK. Second rank in combat gets it's supporting attacks, OK. If the unit is a horde and the third rank also fights, OK. So if I had a horde unit of spears I would get four ranks in combat then. Am I reading this right?

Ta muchly 

cheers

James

[Dewbakuk]

Reading the weapons page, spears fight in an additional rank, OK. Second rank in combat gets it's supporting attacks, OK. If the unit is a horde and the third rank also fights, OK. So if I had a horde unit of spears I would get four ranks in combat then. Am I reading this right?

Yep, hordes with spears are good

[Muskie]

Yep, hordes with spears are good

All the more reason to get my 65 goblin spearman with battle standar bearer on the table top.  I opted for the Spider Banner so they all have poisoned attacks.  My big blocks of bowman look better too, as they have volley fire now.

I'll be painting Nurgle Daemons tonight as supposedly I need to be ready for Sunday and the start of the instore campaign...

[Ramshackle_Curtis]

Well, Im going to be doing 115 orc archers to start with, plus 6 bolt throwers, so please, bring on the big units. Plus dont forget spells that effect a single unit. POW! Then, flank charges to deny rank bonus etc.

I think thats the fun of war gaming, there are som many option that you simply cannot make an unbeatable army.

[Muskie]

Don't goblins have better aim, or is that just in 40K?  I have a unit of 55 Night Goblin archers which with the new volley rule I'm looking forward to seeing if two inches really does matter.   

Let me find a pic, I still need to base my goblins and do the damn shields, but I haven't used them since 4th edition so why rush now.  I'm a stickler for paint before play, otherwise you never paint.  I'm doing Nurgle Daemons right now as it is less work to get the army on the table by Sunday when the LGS campaign starts.



That shot came from my Flickr set if you want to see a bigger version.  I'm warning you now it is almost all GW stuff, though I've painted 150 plus Silent Death ships no one plays that in Vancouver much so they sit in a case, I'll get them displayed someday...  I photographed some of them in an old miniature gallery I put online, which includes some of these old orks and goblins, I've since painted them a lot more...

Cheers,

[rob_the_robgoblin]

That looks awesome!

Yup, hordes goooood.

With ogres, they get full attacks for the two front ranks and another for the third and what's more, you only need 18 ogres to do that... 

Thats a whopping 48 (49 with a champion) attacks.

[Viper]

Far more important for goblins though are the hero units or at least hero front rank.

With the new way heros are bought you can pack about 10, and a battlestandard AND a Warlord into an average sized army.
 

While that did make the former greenskin player in me smile I've got too many issues with the rules for them to make me want to get back into the game, for better or worse I'm not sure...depends what comes of Mantics greenskin models really.
 

[OSHIROmodels]

I like the fact they've gone back to percentages for army lists. Purely from a 'Now I get to use the fantastic conversion of a general' point of view 

cheers

James

[Dewbakuk]

With ogres, they get full attacks for the two front ranks and another for the third and what's more, you only need 18 ogres to do that... 

Thats a whopping 48 (49 with a champion) attacks.

Don't forget the 3 rank 'belly gut charge' impact attacks and that all 18 figures will get a Stomp attack too. The only problem being that's about 600pts for that unit

[Ramshackle_Curtis]

Don't goblins have better aim, or is that just in 40K?  I have a unit of 55 Night Goblin archers which with the new volley rule I'm looking forward to seeing if two inches really does matter.   

Erm, I used to play large goblin shooting units, worked a treat. The orc bows though have 24" range to the goblin bows at 16" range. Makes a difference. Plus in the end, its orcs with bows not goblins. Tougher and better LD....2 points each more? I think its worth it.

[Muskie]

Erm, I used to play large goblin shooting units, worked a treat. The orc bows though have 24" range to the goblin bows at 16" range. Makes a difference. Plus in the end, its orcs with bows not goblins. Tougher and better LD....2 points each more? I think its worth it.

You haven't read the fine print.  Short bows now have a range of 18 inches!  Like I said we'll see if two inches makes a different.  I have some metal and plastic Arrer boys which I was going to include in my first 1500 but I already got the goblins mostly finished.  I as thinking of using the Orks as more of a war machine bodyguard. 

I've read of people just ranking up the arrer boys like regular orks and I think with volley shot that is more valid too.  I'm kinda partial to square units so 25, 36...  I also seem to have ended up with basically multiples of 11 in goblins so 66 and 55 will be movement trays I'll have to make.  I want to see about getting Litko magnetic stuff, but the funds aren't their right now.

Yet another reason why I'm running Nurgle Daemons, just like I did over ten years ago, last time a store manager talked me into joining a Warhammer Fantasy Battle campaign.

[rob_the_robgoblin]

Don't forget the 3 rank 'belly gut charge' impact attacks and that all 18 figures will get a Stomp attack too. The only problem being that's about 600pts for that unit

yeah...

I tried it out the other night against wood elves and just got surrounded and slaughtered with no hope of support!!!!

The unit did, however, tie up her whole army!!!! 


Think I need a rethink...

[joroas]

Rules arrived in the week, along with the combat chart and magic cards.  At the moment all I can say is that they are heavy..............