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Offline Roebeast45

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Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« on: 26 February 2011, 03:27:35 AM »
I picked up a box of unopened Star Frontiers minis today. The packaging was perfect, still in shrinkwrap. But when I pulled back the foam these horrors awaited me:







Now to find a place that accepts toxic materials for disposal.

Apparently the cardboard used in packaging older minis gives of acidic vapor that begins the oxidation. And once it starts there's really no way to stop it. Too bad. I was looking forward to painting the Dralasites.
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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #1 on: 26 February 2011, 05:51:58 AM »
 :o Ouch!  That's really rough... poor guys.  :'(

Offline FramFramson

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #2 on: 26 February 2011, 06:14:47 AM »
Too bad they can't be repurposed as Lovecraftian Horrors.   :?


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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #3 on: 26 February 2011, 07:56:40 AM »
*screams in horror*

'The Lead That God Forgot'

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2011, 09:44:25 AM »
And once it starts there's really no way to stop it.

our worst nightmare is arrived. we are all doomed.

Offline Galland

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #5 on: 26 February 2011, 08:55:03 PM »
I think I have had this disease once, I had a terrible hangover, but I swear I looked just like that.
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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #6 on: 28 February 2011, 04:41:29 PM »
Yeah, I got some just like that once too. Twenty years sealed in plastic just ain't kind to lead is it?
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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #7 on: 28 February 2011, 04:44:50 PM »
Roebeast, check PM's please?

Offline Commander Vyper

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #8 on: 28 February 2011, 08:05:18 PM »
Plenty of ideas out there on the cursed lead rot. Best one I've heard so far is using shellac, (furniture polish/varnish made from beetle wings). You need to cover the whole figure and make for an airtight coat.

Is the mould/rot  powdery or hard?
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Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #9 on: 28 February 2011, 08:18:02 PM »
I think I have had this disease once, I had a terrible hangover, but I swear I looked just like that.

 lol Remind me to steer clear of Swedish beer!

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #10 on: 28 February 2011, 09:06:50 PM »
lol Remind me to steer clear of Swedish beer!

Right move, wrong reason. It's 3.5%. Hangover is among the least likely consequences.

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #11 on: 28 February 2011, 11:39:09 PM »
Is the mould/rot  powdery or hard?

All of the above. It has actually created pits in the surface of the mini and crusty flakes around the pits.

I'm sure that taking a brass brush to them and removing all the surface oxidation will help somewhat. I managed to find a few that aren't too bad.

And like most diseases prevention is the best cure. Some hints from Jeff Rodman at Miss Minis:
1. Don't use casting metal with high lead content.
2. Cardboard and wood give off vapors that start the process so don't store lead minis in these materials unless there is air flow.
3. Using a good enamel primer on lead miniatures will help to keep the process from starting.

I had forgotten how much I detest high lead content miniatures before I started cleaning these. They gum-up needle files, break far too readily, and seem to have much softer detail. But that's the fun of painting old minis. It reminds me how great we have it now.

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #12 on: 01 March 2011, 03:13:41 AM »
 :o :o :o

Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #13 on: 01 March 2011, 08:12:00 AM »

2. Cardboard and wood give off vapors that start the process so don't store lead minis in these materials unless there is air flow.


Looks like I'd better check my lead mountain  :o

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Re: Lead Rot, How I Despise Thee... (Not for the Squeamish)
« Reply #14 on: 01 March 2011, 09:34:10 AM »
Bloody hell mate, that's a nasty case there! My comiserations! =(

Right move, wrong reason. It's 3.5%. Hangover is among the least likely consequences.
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