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Author Topic: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?  (Read 2178 times)

Offline Mr. Peabody

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Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« on: June 17, 2011, 04:16:58 AM »
Playing SA this afternoon and the question came up:
Does the spell Eldritch Barrier provide a second save at 4+ if a model is already behind cover?

Put another way; A model is hit. That model is behind Medium Cover (5+ save) and has Eldritch Barrier cast on them (4+ save). Would there be a saving roll versus the hit for both the Medium Cover and the Spell?
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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 05:33:46 AM »
I would think that the Eldritch Barrier save would supercede all other saves so that the model has a 4+ save against any and all hits, regardless of cover.  If multiple hits are scored, the model receives a 4+ save for each hit.
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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 05:48:44 AM »
Or like in, and sorry for the dull reference, Warhammer 40k- an Invulnerable save (in this case the Barrier effect) would stack with an Armor save, but not with a Cover save. This is not to save the Invul is always used over Cover or vice versa, just whichever is higher. If you're standing behind a boulder, the rock would prevent the spell effect from ever being taken into account. On the other hand if you're holding up a twig, the Barrier would have a little more of a go at stopping those bullets.

Of course my SA book is still in the mail (and for some time now) so I have no relevant on hands knowledge. Just filling the gap with an educated guess (elongated as always) before the rules lawyers break out.

edit: what's a syntax?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2011, 05:53:32 AM by fanfavorite »

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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 03:06:34 PM »
edit: what's a syntax?

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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 03:37:24 PM »
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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 03:43:55 PM »
That's what prostitutes charge you  :D

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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 04:57:28 PM »
I would think that the Eldritch Barrier save would supercede all other saves so that the model has a 4+ save against any and all hits, regardless of cover.  If multiple hits are scored, the model receives a 4+ save for each hit.
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Re: Eldritch Barrier: A Second Save?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 09:31:20 PM »
The insanity! Lovecraft would be proud.

I will Peabody, and thanks. Just remember though always maximize a potential save, its just the common case here. If there is such a thing as a 3+ Cover save in SA, it would supersede the 4+ Barrier. Think of it logically, that always helps.

 

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