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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #406 on: 23 March 2012, 05:05:53 PM »
bullpup?

Yep:

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"Bullpup" describes a modern firearm configuration in which the action is located behind the trigger group and alongside the shooter's face, so there is no wasted space for the buttstock as in conventional designs. This permits a shorter firearm length for the same barrel length for improved maneuverability, and reduces weight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup

I love that kind of weapons, they really look "futuristic"

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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #407 on: 23 March 2012, 05:13:25 PM »
and the helmets still have the CAD polygons showing...

Not. That is the way they are designed, "pixelated" so to speak.
I guess they thought it made them look more futuristic.

They look OKish. Pretty much like any other plastic range, including the old em4minis.
I may buy a pack if they mix up well with GW's tau fire warriors, to make some conversions.
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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #408 on: 23 March 2012, 05:21:19 PM »
Not. That is the way they are designed, "pixelated" so to speak.
I guess they thought it made them look more futuristic.

because blocky is always good...


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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #409 on: 23 March 2012, 05:25:05 PM »
It still looks like an attempt at a folding stock with flash to me.
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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #410 on: 23 March 2012, 05:38:11 PM »
Yep:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup

I love that kind of weapons, they really look "futuristic"

right... so shouldn't there be more mass in the stock at the same level as the barrel then? if it's essentially all barrel?

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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #411 on: 23 March 2012, 06:10:22 PM »
right... so shouldn't there be more mass in the stock at the same level as the barrel then? if it's essentially all barrel?

Yes, if that was a true bullpup design, this isn't.

I guess the guy who designed the gun was like me - "hey, I like this kind of gun, let's see if I can design a stock like that."- and forgot to design the rest of the gun accordingly. But hey...with their flippers hands the stock/flash/strange gun are the least of their problems, lol.

CptJake mentioned that it could be an attempt at a folding stock, but seeing the original art for the Marines, that doesn't look like it.

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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #412 on: 23 March 2012, 06:10:35 PM »
part of the stock.

Ah, yes.  My mistake.
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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #413 on: 24 March 2012, 12:16:18 AM »
right... so shouldn't there be more mass in the stock at the same level as the barrel then? if it's essentially all barrel?

Nop,  bullpup means the loader is situated behind the trigger, which isn't the case with these guns, so definitly no bullpup.
Only reason I can think of to fill up that stock is as a compartment for tools (maintenance of the rifle) like they did in the old days...
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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #414 on: 24 March 2012, 12:18:41 AM »
Nop,  bullpup means the loader is situated behind the trigger, which isn't the case with these guns, so definitly no bullpup.
Only reason I can think of to fill up that stock is as a compartment for tools (maintenance of the rifle) like they did in the old days...


It isn't shaped right for that.

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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #415 on: 24 March 2012, 06:43:54 AM »
I'll be honest, whilst these aren't my cup of tea, they don't look too bad. Quality wise, I'd say close to Hasegawa's 1/72 hard plastic figures, circa the early 1980s, in terms of definition and detail.
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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #416 on: 24 March 2012, 09:31:06 AM »
I think they're as bad as I thought they would be (hey, am I ever wrong? lol). The bare head is hilarious, has the dude suffered a stroke that the whole left side of his face is drooping? What little detail there is it's all wrong and soft. Not for me, thanks.

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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #417 on: 24 March 2012, 11:16:40 AM »
it looks like it ejects the round through the upper part of the stock. Its the only ejector port I can see on the weapon.

To me it looks like a cut out to keep weight down/allow sliding of the stock.   Way too long for an ejection port.

The other thing that is annoying me is the SAW.   Asinine design.   Without a stock how would a guy use the under barrel grenade launcher they stuck on it.   Seriously, how would a trooper hold that and have a chance of aiming it while firing?  "They have electronic aiming devices wired to their helmets" is a crap answer.


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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #418 on: 24 March 2012, 11:32:17 AM »
To me it looks like a cut out to keep weight down/allow sliding of the stock.   Way too long for an ejection port.

The other thing that is annoying me is the SAW.   Asinine design.   Without a stock how would a guy use the under barrel grenade launcher they stuck on it.   Seriously, how would a trooper hold that and have a chance of aiming it while firing?  "They have electronic aiming devices wired to their helmets" is a crap answer.


Guys, I think you are over analysing it all. Impractical design for a firearm it's true but I think you need to look at the real inspiration for these weapons....

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Re: Defiance Games USMC Marines!
« Reply #419 on: 24 March 2012, 02:02:27 PM »
I really hate the design of the helmeted heads.  Have to agree the SAW looks odd and useless.  Perhaps some Pig Iron head swaps could make them better but why bother?  They are not living up to the hype. 
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