Defiance Games USMC Marines!

[Ray Rivers]

Yep! I ordered these for the conversion potential of plastic figures but these will be 'enhanced' rather than altered. I like them.

I would tend to agree here.

I'd order a snot load of Pig Iron stuff (heads, pouches, backpacks etc.) and maybe some Hasselfree weapons and it would appear you could put together some fairly cool miniatures.

[CptJake]

I would tend to agree here.

I'd order a snot load of Pig Iron stuff (heads, pouches, backpacks etc.) and maybe some Hasselfree weapons and it would appear you could put together some fairly cool miniatures.

Which greatly detracts from the "But They Are So Cheap!" argument for these being 'good'. 

[Ironworker]

I'm still not happy that they arn't out yet or that I am going to have to go find where I change my address so I can get my order because when I ordered these in December and I have moved since then.  I'm not happy about those things and since I put money down I have a right to be. 

However some of you seem pretty invested in your position that these have to suck because you have been negative about them from the get go.  They look fine to me.  Better than some things out there but not as good as others.  If they get things rolling they will be a good value and a nice addition to the non "Gothic" selection of sci-fi troopers.  If they are not to your taste don't buy them. 

They don't look too bad to me even in a less than professional paint job. 

[supervike]

Yep, I agree, they don't look bad at all.

I still won't drop a dime on them until I see more shots, and certainly not until they are IN STOCK for real.

But, the business model still seems broke, and they'll face a huge uphill PR climb to get back in the good graces of painters/gamers/collectors.

[Predatorpt]

Yep, I agree, they don't look bad at all...

I have to agree with that (I'll buy some minis once I can buy them from stores other than the DG one) but I also have to agree with everyone who mentioned that damm helmet. There's no way a soldier could have lateral vision with that kind of setup. Only if the helmet sides were transparent 

[Ironworker]

Yep, I agree, they don't look bad at all.

I still won't drop a dime on them until I see more shots, and certainly not until they are IN STOCK for real.

But, the business model still seems broke, and they'll face a huge uphill PR climb to get back in the good graces of painters/gamers/collectors.

I am with you on that.  I've seen many startup game companies shoot themsleves in the foot like this.  It's a shame too because the fanbois don't understand that even the larger more sucessful companies started out small and had problems. 

I hope things get better for them but I think the frustration from the people who have paid money and not recieved their product is legit.  I also understand why others would want to be cautious with their money. 

[tnjrp]

As of this morning, the DG webstore still says "preorder" and the news don't mention the Second Coming Marines shipping.

In the actual news, on TMP "Richard Gaulding" has promised to throw in a sprue of the Marines to go to the lucky winner of our competition, which by his word should be Doc P. Of course we won't take his word but that doesn't mean he is dishonest about this.

[tnjrp]

I still won't drop a dime on them until I see more shots, and certainly not until they are IN STOCK for real.

I won't drop a dime on these period, but I might buy some of DG bugs and perhaps some other set they might or might not be able to come up somewhere down the line.

[manatic]

These don't look half bad. I'm waiting for my reviewer's set, I'll be sure to let you know when they arrive.

[Xeno_RG]

As of this morning, the DG webstore still says "preorder" and the news don't mention the Second Coming Marines shipping.

In the actual news, on TMP "Richard Gaulding" has promised to throw in a sprue of the Marines to go to the lucky winner of our competition, which by his word should be Doc P. Of course we won't take his word but that doesn't mean he is dishonest about this.

I quote myself from TMP:

Honestly, they're not "in stock" right now -- I'm not sure what the status on the boxes is, since, iirc, Tony was holding off on printing them until the mold was actually complete. No sense having a thousand of so boxes printing off if the final mold revision melts the damned thing, right?

So . . . it'll probably be more like a few days or a week until things actually start shipping. I could be wrong, though, since Tony has been pretty quiet lately and may have already gone ahead with the box printing. Plastic could be winging its way out right now for all I know.

Mainly, I'm just tugging Cpt Jake's chain since he's been harping about the "in stock" thing for months.

And that's not "sprue," it's "Box": as in a box of 24 Defiance Games USMC to whoever wins the pool, or comes closest, courtesy of me, complete with nice note.

-Richard

[Dewbakuk]

Welcome to LAF Richard

They look fine to me.  Better than some things out there but not as good as others.  If they get things rolling they will be a good value and a nice addition to the non "Gothic" selection of sci-fi troopers.  If they are not to your taste don't buy them.  

I think they're looking better than previous shots and vastly superior to those terrible preview prints! I agree with others that those helmets are rubbish, but then I've been of that opinion since the artwork was first shown way, way back. I also really dislike those feet/boots, peoples legs go in at the bottom, especially in military boots and combats.

Final opinion however depends on what people other than Defiance show and if/when I see them in the shops in person.

[tnjrp]

And that's not "sprue," it's "Box": as in a box of 24 Defiance Games USMC to whoever wins the pool, or comes closest, courtesy of me, complete with nice note

Ok, I stand corrected on that as I was going by the memory alone. More glory to the winner. Once we can determine the winner.

It's interesting to note that you say that you were yanking Jake's chain with your recent posts about Marines being in stock over at TMP, because... But I think I'll just let Jake take this from here

[Dr.Falkenhayn]

Welcome to LAF Richard

    

[tnjrp]

Now now, don't be a hater...

Wait, is there an echo here?

[Dewbakuk]

Play nice boys.