Defiance Games USMC Marines!

[James Holloway]

My plastic bin is brimming with junque, and in my view it all looks fine on the tabletop as long as the painting and basing is right -- but then I am a workaday painter, not a master. I like cheap plastics plenty; I just don't really need more soldier types at the moment. I mean, I can always _use_ a few, but it's not a pressing need.

[tnjrp]

No new news on the Marines shipping on DG site since yesterday. Well, maybe tomorrow...

Here's again the list of the nics participating in the "Guess the Defiance Games Marine Shipping Date" competition, with "victory windows" calculated (hopefully correctly) and the actual wager date:

• James Holloway: until April 24 (April 15)
• Commander Vyper April 25- May 8 (May 4)
• Old Goat: May 9 - May 17 (May 14)
• Dr.Falkenhayn: May 19 - May 27 (May 22)
• Cadet 13: May 29 - June 3 (June 3)
• Aliensurfer: June 4 - June 18 (June 4)
• Silversixx: June 20 onwards to infinity and beyond! (July 4th)

Tied dates are May 9, May 18, May 28 and June 18 so let's hope the shipping date doesn't fall on any of those...

Is there someone missing?

Matakishi and Xeno_RG have added a prize but are not participating. Dwartist with his standing preorder is arbitrating on the final realized date issue.

[dwartist]

"Dwartist with his standing preorder is arbitrating on the final realized date issue."
Am I?

[James Holloway]

Best for last is the half a can of hairspray 80's big hair.

I think that is the eponymous beret.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure those figures are out there. Google or ebay for "Blood Berets". There are not-dissimilar models in "Siege of the Citadel" and "Fury of the Clansmen". Fury is where the biggest hair can be found. Personally, I think the baddies in Siege actually look quite nice.

[tnjrp]

"Dwartist with his standing preorder is arbitrating on the final realized date issue."
Am I?

You have not objected to being "it" so that must be a sign of consent

The only proposed alternative is to wait until Matakishi gives an okay by naming a trusted retailer having the product in stock but that's not going to get us an actual ship date.

[CptJake]

No new news on the Marines shipping on DG site since yesterday. Well, maybe tomorrow...

Here's again the list of the nics participating in the "Guess the Defiance Games Marine Shipping Date" competition, with "victory windows" calculated (hopefully correctly) and the actual wager date:

• James Holloway: until April 24 (April 15)
• Commander Vyper April 25- May 8 (May 4)
• Old Goat: May 9 - May 17 (May 14)
• Dr.Falkenhayn: May 19 - May 27 (May 22)
• Cadet 13: May 29 - June 3 (June 3)
• Aliensurfer: June 4 - June 18 (June 4)
• Silversixx: June 20 onwards to infinity and beyond! (July 4th)

Tied dates are May 9, May 18, May 28 and June 18 so let's hope the shipping date doesn't fall on any of those...

Is there someone missing?

Matakishi and Xeno_RG have added a prize but are not participating. Dwartist with his standing preorder is arbitrating on the final realized date issue.

You missed me.

[tnjrp]

Feel free to provide the relevant details.

[Predatorpt]

Anyone know if there's going to be an UK retailer for these?

Or a fellow LAF member from the US, who can pick a couple of boxes for me (when available)? 

[tnjrp]

Why can't you order them yourself? The p&p doesn't seem in any way excessive...

As for the actual release date...
http://defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/boxes-approved-and-ready-to-print

It's starting to look like James Holloway has pretty solid tabs on winning the competition!

[James Holloway]

Why can't you order them yourself? The p&p doesn't seem in any way excessive...

As for the actual release date...
http://defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/boxes-approved-and-ready-to-print

It's starting to look like James Holloway has pretty solid tabs on winning the competition!

Maaaaaaybe ... they're talking about it all "coming together" next week. They only need to be off by a week to run past the end of my window, and it's not like they've never been optimistic about their timetable before.

[tnjrp]

True, that. But also they only need to get the stuff going before your window ends for you to win, it doesn't have to arrive.

[zemjw]

thjrp wrote
Why can't you order them yourself? The p&p doesn't seem in any way excessive...

Sadly, although the p&p isn't bad, when you add import duties etc, it quickly adds up

1 box = $29.95 + $5.95 p&p = $36 (rounded up) = £22.58 in uk money

Import threshold is now £15 on the pre p&p price, but as $29.95 is £18.80, it's still over the threshold and you now have to add 20%, which is another £4.50(*). You then get the Post Office's "I looked at it, I'm going to charge you" charge, which is approx £8.

So, £22 + £4.50 + £8 = £34.50, which is 50% more than the simple dollar to pound conversion cost.

For 24 minis, that makes just under £1.50 per figure. I used to be able to get three Imperial Guard for that, although that was many years ago 


* I'm not sure if vat is charged on the full (inc p&p) or the basic (pre p&p) amount. If it excludes p&p the vat becomes £3.76

[tnjrp]

Hmm, I wasn't aware that the UK import threshold for miniatures is so low. In Finland, it's in practice 50 € (although that's including p&p) which, at today's rate, means ca. US$65 or £41. Strictly speaking the threshold is slighly less and dependent on the VAT and the customs fee of the product but the customs office basically won't bother with less than 50 €.

[zemjw]

it was £18 until recently, but is now pretty much a joke. It's £35 for gifts, but that wouldn't apply in this case.

Since the start of the current "economic issues", they seem to let much less through without charge 

I have wondered about using one of those US postal address services and getting it forwarded on from there. It would increase the p&p charges, but you might avoid the customs charge (no idea how those sites handle customs declarations). At that point, however, I do step back and ask myself if I *really* need the figures

[tnjrp]

I think it would still fall under the "£35 for a gift" rule even if you used one of those (not applicable to one box of DG Marines, obviously)...

I don't really see those forwarding boxes as an alternative for anything else than for círcumventing the shops that put (IMCO mostly pointless) embargoes on certain products, such as music file downloads.