1937 to 1939 Japanese tank colours?

[David]

Hi 
what was the 1937 to 1939 Japanese  tank colours for the russian-jap war?
paint names numbers make for water based paints would be great
Thanks
David

[Helen]

Hi 
what was the 1937 to 1939 Japanese  tank colours for the russian-jap war?
paint names numbers make for water based paints would be great
Thanks
David

Need to get back to you David as I'll need to do some research.

Cheers,

Helen

[David]

Hi Helen
from the black and white pictures i have seen it is various colours, but i don't know what colours.
it might be the same as WW2, but i am not sure about this either.
any help would be great. i won't be painting them before feb.
I have loads and loads of 15mm romanian cavalry to paint for my brother first
Thanks
David

[David]

Hi Helen
Here is the information i have found so far
this is from the flames of war pacific yahoo group
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sJoaT67RSjK_FwkudrZHsOVKnVa4lK3qMhts7g4DMfc3fZfbn0ZPYzEZ_WHMzcEeaIJ8N9tXFUrEB4DCNEzX59Yagm0DtlpdGJyM/Unofficial%20Army%20Lists/MW%20Japanese%20Tank%20Forces%2C%20Version%201.2.pdf





still not sure what colour pattern for Japanese tanks was used in 1937 to 1939  for the russian-jap war
David

[Helen]

Thanks David, I've not forgotten you, just a tad busy at the moment.

This week for sure.

Helen

[Johnnytodd]

David,

Have you seen this website:

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/index.html

Maybe he has what you are looking for.

John

[David]

Hi John
Yes i have seen this Great site, loads of black and white pictures.
I am looking for the japanesse tanks colour for the
:- The Battle of Khalkhin Gol 1939 ( large tank battle )
:- The Battle of Lake Khasan
thanks for your link
David

[Helen]

Hi David,

Trawling through my books I came across a paragraph that may narrow down your options for painting the Japanese afvs for the period in question. Referring to Japanese Armour 1931-45 (Camouflage and Markings (AJ Press English-Polish)) it mentions on page 13 that "Until 1941 in China and Manchuria four colour camouflage scheme was definitely preferred, where khaki was the dominant colour. Other colours were: yellow, which resembled the yamabuki flower (kerria Japonica; a kind of rose developing little, yellow flowers), and two shades of brown (parched grass and dark brown). It is worth noticing that from 1925 till 1940 vehicles additionally displayed occasionally thin black lines whose purpose was the separation of colours (Note 1).

Note 1. The the early 1930s, tanks were painted 5 colours (green, brown, dark brown, dark green and yellow) with black border lines. In the late 1930s, the paint of three colours (brown, green, dark brown) with yellow lines was the common camouflage.

My recommendation David is to purchase the aforementioned book as the authority for the period you are looking for.

I hope this maybe of assistance. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.

Cheers,

Helen

[Prof.Witchheimer]

Other colours were: yellow, which resembled the yamabuki flower (kerria Japonica; a kind of rose developing little, yellow flowers)

I guess, there is a story behind it. Would like to know why someone takes the color of flowers to paint tanks
   

[Helen]

I guess, there is a story behind it. Would like to know why someone takes the color of flowers to paint tanks
   

I could try and find out Alex. Have  a contact in Japan who may know.

Cheers,

Helen

[Johnnytodd]

Japanese rifles were stamped with the image of the chrysanthemum as this flower was the symbol of the royal family - and rifles were property of the emperor.  Possibly the yambuki flower also invoked some royal (divine) power...

[Helen]

Japanese rifles were stamped with the image of the chrysanthemum as this flower was the symbol of the royal family - and rifles were property of the emperor.  Possibly the yambuki flower also invoked some royal (divine) power...

That's certainly possible John.

[Prof.Witchheimer]

I could try and find out Alex. Have  a contact in Japan who may know.

Cheers,

Helen

Would be great, Helen! Find the Japan's culture fascinating.

[David]

Thanks Helen

i just got 560 Photo Mukden Manchurian Incident War Japan sino Qing Book which covers

Jinan Incident
Mukden Manchurian Incident
Kwantung Army(Kanto)
Mukden Manchurian Army
January 28 Incident
Chengde Incident
Battle of Khalkhin Gol
Battle of Lake Khasan

I will have to look for others, but from my search so far i have had no luck, but your guide is great
Cheers
David

[Helen]

Thanks Helen

i just got 560 Photo Mukden Manchurian Incident War Japan sino Qing Book which covers

Jinan Incident
Mukden Manchurian Incident
Kwantung Army(Kanto)
Mukden Manchurian Army
January 28 Incident
Chengde Incident
Battle of Khalkhin Gol
Battle of Lake Khasan

I will have to look for others, but from my search so far i have had no luck, but your guide is great
Cheers
David

Thanks David, sounds like a great find. Any chance of a front cover scan?

Cheers,

Helen