EotD - terrain?

[jscottbowman]

Hi, Just come across this game, and have ordered it.
I love the look of VSF/Steampunk / Gothic Horror mix, and as a skirmish game, wont need millions of figures, but... terrain...
trying to recreate a Victorian Britian... has anyone come up with an easy way to scratch build in-scale brick facades for model buildings?

I'm guessing you simply have to score/etch the pattern into a sheet foam material? a lengthy laborious job...

Scott

[Svennn]

I heard a very faint rumour that there may be some card building pdf's based on some famous Victoriana for just this purpose being developed

[fastolfrus]

I heard a very faint rumour that there may be some card building pdf's based on some famous Victoriana for just this purpose being developed

Let's hope so.

[Thunderchicken]

Funny you should say that Svennn old chap, I've heard the same too. 

As for scratchbuilding, it is labourious but worth it and trust me the more you do it the faster you'll get.
If you search under 'underneath the arches', 'victorian buildings' and such like you'll find plenty of threads from chaps on this forum who put builds together.

Alternatively, more buildings are starting to pop up on the market - Jimbibbly at Oshiro is bringing out some lovely designs and a few companies such as Warbases and Sarissa are jumping on the MDF bandwagon. PMC games on ebay is another source of resin buildings, not the best but good quality.   

[Van-Helsing]

My friend Carl Stoelzel (Stoelzel’s Structures) - http://www.wargamevault.com /index.php?manufacturers_id=4244term=Stoe is working on some too (Nagging is extremely effective I find) his aren't traditional Paper Terrain, but rather designed specifically to be mounted on standard 5 mm foamcore, for added durability (something I always do anyway)

[gharak]

Any reason you can't used embossed styrene? We've been using it for years for any brick or stone clad structures, you can get fairly in scale stuff from the model railway world.

Alternatively what about wooden laser cut buildings which are a fraction of the cost of resin alternatives. There's been a few companies about with Victorian Terraces, Shops and Warehouses recently:

http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/cityblock28/
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-SMALL-TERRACED-SHOP-28mm-Laser-cut-MDF-scale-Building-Terrain-/380415503431#ht_1155wt_700
etc

[Van-Helsing]

Got any linkies for the embossed Styrene - I would (ideally) rather build my own from scratch!

[Skrapwelder]

For scratchbuilding Heki used ot make a foam sheet with a brick pattern in it. I don't know if they still do. Very nice. Cuts like Styrofoam and is fairly durable. I don't know how well it paints though. I've only used it as a basis for castings.

I'm in the process of making new molds that will be more friendly towards the idea of production in quantity. I'll probably have a few designs available over the summer. I just need to figure out what needs to be made first.

[axabrax]

Only problem with this game is the lack of available terrain--although for the sewers you can use the Malifaux paper set and obviously the rural settings aren't too much of a prob either. Really have no idea what to do with the gardens!

I am actually planning on playing in an American setting so will be reusing Old West and ACW terrain, but the urban environment is still a bit of an issue. I am thinking of mixing some Old West buildings and some of the Old Glory Chicago Gangster buildings to represent 19th century New York and faintly echoing the Gangs of New York movie. In fact there is a paper range from TVAG for Gangs of New York gaming in 28mm, but the graphics are fairly primitive by today's standards.

Skrapwelder: I think it would be awesome if you did a production run of your Victorian buildings and sidewalks/streets. I was at your convention game, and they were fantastic!

[Van-Helsing]

Oh I don't know, even if you don't have access to Victorian Buildings (which I am sure now won't be for long) there are plenty of options for Terrain.

Castles Ruined or Not, Churches and Abbeys, Graveyards, Eastern European Buildings etc, etc . . .

LOADS of Options!

[Van-Helsing]

For scratchbuilding Heki used ot make a foam sheet with a brick pattern in it. I don't know if they still do. Very nice. Cuts like Styrofoam and is fairly durable. I don't know how well it paints though. I've only used it as a basis for castings.

I'm in the process of making new molds that will be more friendly towards the idea of production in quantity. I'll probably have a few designs available over the summer. I just need to figure out what needs to be made first.

What sort of Foam Sheet?

[Skrapwelder]

This place has it listed with a decent description but no picture.

http://www.sceneryexpress.com/products.asp?dept=svhqyidoqqtsfzbg&pagenumber=123&sort_on=number&sort_by=DESC

[Van-Helsing]

Thankies!

[jscottbowman]

Thanks for replies.
I found the sheet materials listed at scenery express. As always, with scratchbuilding its a trade off to some extent, in cost saving vs time saving...

What I am pondering trying is to make a building from foamcard or mdf then heavily skimcoat in filler/plaster like polyfilla/tetrion/spackle (whatever you call it in your country). This stuff usually dries a creamy white colour (the colour of mortar between the bricks).
Paint the surface in brick colour red/brown.
Once dry etch/scrape in the brick pattern, with a compass point or other suitable tool, as by simply scraping away the top layer of paint , you will  reveal the mortar colour underneath...
Voila!
The only issue is the time it will take..., and keeping neat rows of bricks...

[jscottbowman]

Thanks for replies.
I found the sheet materials listed at scenery express. As always, with scratchbuilding its a trade off to some extent, in cost saving vs time saving...

What I am pondering trying is to make a building from foamcard or mdf then heavily skimcoat in filler/plaster like polyfilla/tetrion/spackle (whatever you call it in your country). This stuff usually dries a creamy white colour (the colour of mortar between the bricks).
Paint the surface in brick colour red/brown.
Once dry etch/scrape in the brick pattern, with a compass point or other suitable tool, as by simply scraping away the top layer of paint , you will  reveal the mortar colour underneath...
Voila!
The only issue is the time it will take..., and keeping neat rows of bricks...

Ah ha, after browsing through other threads here in the forum, I found the 'sweeney terrain' thread from Overlord... excellent work, and the link back from there finally found the name of the thin dense foam material, Depron,(I've been looking for this for years, not knowing what it was called)... and found a supplier here in NZ :-)