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Offline Rob_bresnen

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How to paint red?
« on: 14 October 2012, 12:13:17 AM »
I have a F+IW army in mind, and have been looking how to paint my British army. I was wondering how you guys like to paint the red of the British Red Coat.

My usual method for painting red is to use GW Blood Red over a yellow base coat- but it is time consuming and generally goes on a bit 'thick' thus obscuring some details. It also has a tenancy to be patchy.

Any tips would be welcome indeed.
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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #1 on: 14 October 2012, 03:16:56 AM »
I use GW paints and paint MY reds as follows:

Black base coat
Khorne Red base coat
Shade: Carroburg Crimson
Layer: Khorne Red on raised portions only leaving darker shadows
Layer 2/Highlight: Evil Sunz Scarlet

I don't know how this colour would match a more historical red though...
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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #2 on: 14 October 2012, 04:49:14 AM »
I go for a deep brown base coat followed by an old GW red (scab red I think) that's on it's last legs then just a lighter red depending what my hand reaches for in the red/yellow paint draw  lol

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #3 on: 14 October 2012, 09:16:40 AM »
I use the Foundry 'British Redcoat' triad, with a final highlight of Foundry 'Bright Red'. Works for me.
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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #4 on: 14 October 2012, 09:31:42 AM »
I use the Foundry 'British Redcoat' triad, with a final highlight of Foundry 'Bright Red'. Works for me.

Off a black base coat?

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #5 on: 14 October 2012, 10:35:03 AM »
Off a black base coat?
No, always white, don't ever use black.

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #6 on: 14 October 2012, 10:39:18 AM »
No, always white, don't ever use black.

Same for me. I usually use a brown base coat like the old GW scorched brown followed by Vallego deep red, then a mid red followed by a scarlet highlight.
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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #7 on: 14 October 2012, 11:24:24 AM »
I think the main problem is that most manufacturers' reds (and a lot of yellows) are a bit translucent for working over black or dark brown bases, which is why a lot of folk resort to yellow or white under red. The best red I ever had for covering power was the Humbrol acrylic of 20-odd years ago - bought another one recently, sadly not as good.  :-I

I agree with the above comments, good pragmatic stuff, and some good recipes  :)

I'm currently (rather spasmodically) painting some provincials with red waistcoats and facings. The colour combination I've ended up with over a black undercoat (actually I've come round to undercoating grey then a heavy wash of black to make the details more easily visible to work on) is:
Base - Foundry Madder Red Shade or GW Scab Red - James, it's still available  :)
Mid - Foundry Scarlet Light
Highlight - Foundry Bright Red Light
I haven't tried the Redcoat "triad" yet.

I may move away from this a little bit for my regulars (when I have some ready  ;) ), one thing to be wary of is ending up with too vivid a red for the British squaddie of this time, scarlet for soldiers was a relatively cheap colour of cloth,that of officers and sergeants being better.

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #8 on: 14 October 2012, 12:21:29 PM »
I don't tend to worry so much about the basecoat, but generally use black.

I will then use my old Mechrite Red Foundation Paint. I go over that with a watered down wash with some black gesso (water-based undercoat, really cheap).

Once that has dried, I highlight with some really bright red. My latest one is Vallejo's Carmine Red 70908. I might mix that with some orange to really bring it out.

I also always add water to my paints before painting them on to a miniature.

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #9 on: 14 October 2012, 12:58:17 PM »
GW Scab Red - James, it's still available  :)

But is it the same recipe?  ;)

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #10 on: 14 October 2012, 01:17:53 PM »
But is it the same recipe?  ;)


James, I can't swear to it, I had a pot ages ago which dried out eventually, but it looks pretty much the same to me.  :)
It paints over black pretty well and is a good deep colour, other reds go over it nicely.  8)

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #11 on: 14 October 2012, 03:11:36 PM »
James, I can't swear to it, I had a pot ages ago which dried out eventually, but it looks pretty much the samec to me.  :)
It paints over black pretty well and is a good deep colour, other reds go over it nicely.  8)

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Thanks Lance, I'll give it a go if I can be brave enough to go in  ::) lol

cheers

James

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #12 on: 14 October 2012, 03:20:40 PM »
I do my reds with craft paints starting with a burgundy and finishing with one called Holly Berry from Inscribe.

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #13 on: 14 October 2012, 07:04:25 PM »
James, mail order it you great wuss.

 ;D bugger off you  ;D

Anyway, you've got to register and I really can't be bothered with all that and the postage for one pot of paint that I can probably get my missus to buy for me  :D

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Re: How to paint red?
« Reply #14 on: 14 October 2012, 07:56:29 PM »


Black undercoat
GW Blood red cut with 10% black as a basecoat
GW Blood red top coat
GW Blood red cut with increasing amounts of Vallejo Flat Yellow for highlight coats.
The topmost highlight has a lot more yellow than red in the mix.

GW Evil Sunz Scarlet is the best substitute for the GW discontinued Blood Red. In fact, it's already a bit yellower.

 

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