Sedition Wars Kickstaters shipping soon!

[The Dozing Dragon]

Mine arrived yesterday - I have only had a quick look as I have a chest infection that is throwing me completely...... as mentioned before the figures do not look how I imagined them......they certainly do not have the sharpness of detail that I signed up for.....it all looks professionally produced but I will need to get rid of this blasted constant headache before I can concentrate enough to look further...

[zizi666]

Assembled a trooper and a grenadier Lancer last night. I estimate I spent about an hour per figure cleaning the flash and sculpting a decent surface to glue the arm to.  
I started on a Lancer but now it seems the left hand on the gun part doesn't lign up with the left arm (some mm offset) which will probably mean another hot dip procedure.  
At this rate I'll probably loose interest in the game before I ever get the whole set assembled.

At least this experience tought me a couple of things :
1. the next one to bring out PVC minis can go F**k himself
2. I'll definitly think twice before pledging another miniatures kickstarter.
Granted Zombicide was a fantastic experience, Sedition Wars begins to look like a pain in the lower backside.

[Malebolgia]

The more I read about Sedition Wars and the plastic quality, the more I think this should be approached as purely a board game and not a miniatures game. A shame though, lovely miniatures but I hate restic. I have bucketloads of Warmachine restic, still waiting to be cleaned. The PVC is terrible material to clean. Files don't work well and knives don't work well either. Urgh.

[zizi666]

The more I read about Sedition Wars and the plastic quality, the more I think this should be approached as purely a board game and not a miniatures game. A shame though, lovely miniatures but I hate restic. I have bucketloads of Warmachine restic, still waiting to be cleaned. The PVC is terrible material to clean. Files don't work well and knives don't work well either. Urgh.

A lot of boardgamers don't posses the skills or the inclination to assemble the multipart figures. I feel for those that bought this.
As for your statements on the material, I can only concur. 

[zizi666]

I noticed that I supplied some wrong information. The bad fit is on the lancer (female without helmet) and it isn't just one mini, I checked several and they all suffer from the same problem.
Just had a quick look at the grenadier and the Reaver and I recon they won't pose any problems re fitting parts.

[obsidian3d]

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A lot of boardgamers don't posses the skills or the inclination to assemble the multipart figures. I feel for those that bought this.
As for your statements on the material, I can only concur. 

This is a fair assessment, and is correct of DreadBall as well. In retrospect I suppose it's sort of interesting that they both seem to have been marketed as 'complete board games' but with a hobbyist component to them. I really don't see anyone who picks them up looking for a board game being a happy customer.

More back on topic...according the the status of my tracking number, canada post tried to deliver my box today. As I wasn't home at the time, I'll have to go pick it up tomorrow. Should be interesting!

[zizi666]

I for one am looking forward to find out how other member's fare with their box.

[ironmammoth]

I got mine a couple of days ago. I haven't had a chance to get the tools to them yet. Looks like a lot of work.

I got rid of Hybrid without putting those metal minis together, hopefully I will get a little further with this one...

[hjorhrafn]

Mine came in today.  I've had a chance to put together one of the Drones and a Grendlr.  The Drone is relatively painless, and this first Grendlr doesn't have any major problems.  I'll need to do a bit of greenstuffing around a leg, an arm, and the head, but nothing that gives me reason to regret my purchase so far. 

[bandit86]

Still waiting but looking forward.

[mcfonz]

Having seen some you-tube unboxing vids I am gutted I didn't have the cash at the time. The strain look really nice, I hope they release them eventually as boxed sets without being a rip off as I wouldn't mind getting hold of some for my projects.

[tnjrp]

I checked the minis on Saturday. I have all that's been promised so far and only very minor problems with the components I didn't too much care about anyway (ref: boards etc.) so I'm pretty happy with my purchase at this point.

On the fit issue, obviously I didn't check all the models but I did check the Grendls: one of them has a pretty bad misalignements, but not in excess of some early WARMACHINE models for example. The other had only a very minor gap left between the torso and the mouth.

Also did a quick test at cleaning up a model and the problems with working the material seem a little overstated. Granted, there are a lot of quite fiddly bitz that may yet pose a real problem. I can understand that if you were expecting boardgame pieces (which, for obivous reasons, many were) you may not be as happy as I am, even before attempting to actually build some of the more component-rich models (Akosha in particular is in about a dozen micropieces).

[Major_Gilbear]

@ Everyone:

Guys, I'm sorry for the lack of comparison pix so far! I have taken some, but the shine of the metal and the grey of the plastic are very hard to photograph side-by-side (and I'm a terrible photographer anyway), so they don't really show much. I also live in a ground floor flat, and have to take pictures using only indoor lights at this time of year due to a lack of natural light - which doesn't help either. I have some more ideas though, and will try again tonight!

@ tnjrp:

It seems that your experience is similar to mine. The quality of the plastics is perfectly good, and whilst it may not be the very best I've ever seen, it pretty much exactly meets with my expectations.

My boards have already started scuffing around the corners though, and that's just from opening the box half a dozen times. I think that SMcV should have spent a bit more time/effort/money getting them right; sealing each board section like you would expect from a normal board game board would have been the obvious solution instead of leaving the cut edges as they have - it's not as if the boards interlock or anything either.

I also agree with some folks that the boards could/should have been a bit brighter (it just makes them easier to see!), and I think they still would have been moody enough. That's a minor nitpick though.

How were your tokens and such? Badly off-centre, or okay?

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If anyone is having trouble with gluing or cleaning up mouldlines, has anyone considered a solvent-weld adhesive? This is like Poly Cement that most people use for plastic models, but is much thinner and is DCM-based (usually, as far as I can tell). Many model hobbyists use the stuff already, and it will "stick" just about any plastic used in models by slightly dissolving the joined surfaces together.

Because the solvent weld is so thin (and is usually applied with a brush), I have also found it very useful in smoothing any roughness left on plastics after filing by just brushing it onto the surface areas affected. So, you *can* file "restic"/PVC models, and then brush on a little solvent weld to perfectly smooth the filed surface again.

[tnjrp]

Guys, I'm sorry for the lack of comparison pix so far!

I was actually planning on taking some myself but I seem to have buried my "usual suspects" box somewhere deep in the latest reshuffle of miniatures stuff so I didn't have the models I wanted to shoot the B4A stuff along with at hand. I may have time to dig them out next weekend but can't promise I can be bothered...

How were your tokens and such? Badly off-centre, or okay?

Some of the tokens were printed off center but not by so much the pattern would fall outside of the punching cut. The boards also don't seem to align perfectly. Those would be rather minor quibbles for me, I'm really mostly in it for the minis

Because the solvent weld is so thin (and is usually applied with a brush), I have also found it very useful in smoothing any roughness left on plastics after filing by just brushing it onto the surface areas affected. So, you *can* file "restic"/PVC models, and then brush on a little solvent weld to perfectly smooth the filed surface again

That's a good tip. I have to see if I can find any around these parts of the world.

Incidentally, I've been thinking of trying an all-plastic glue on these instead of superglue just to see if it'll stick. If not, then it's back to superglue without further ado.

[Major_Gilbear]

Incidentally, I've been thinking of trying an all-plastic glue on these instead of superglue just to see if it'll stick. If not, then it's back to superglue without further ado.

I think that all-plastic glue *is* the solvent weld? Something like this? The bottle comes with a little brush applicator in the lid.