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Offline THE CID

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #30 on: 31 July 2013, 08:01:35 PM »
Looks daft, but alright for a drunken night on DVD.
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Offline starkadder

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #31 on: 31 July 2013, 10:31:24 PM »
Aaaargh, I have just seen the trailer and it looks awful.

The gai-jin saves the day, eh? Why have they let Reeves go off his medication again?

I'll enjoy posting a review or seventy on Rotten tomatoes and IMDB.
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Offline white knight

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #32 on: 01 August 2013, 07:57:36 AM »
The gai-jin saves the day, eh?

It's a long standing movie tradition that a washed out white man, preferrably with a drinking problem, who trains for a couple of days/weeks will surpass any samurai who was bred for it and trained all his life. Just common sense, really.

Offline Modhail

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #33 on: 01 August 2013, 08:18:51 AM »
Ooh, ooh, don't forget the troubled past and/or heavy conscience!
Can't be White-man-who-saves-the-world without it...

Offline elysium64

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #34 on: 01 August 2013, 08:38:52 AM »
Doi detect a touch of cynicism here  :D

Offline Mr Tough Guy

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #35 on: 01 August 2013, 08:46:16 AM »
Just seen the trailer and was rather disappointed to see that Hiroyuki Sanada is in it  :'(

yeah the cast is surprisingly good, with some decent actors, shame they had to shoehorn keannu in it, or is this secretly Bill and Ted 3? in which case it all makes sense and I forgive him immediatly  ;)

Offline Modhail

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #36 on: 01 August 2013, 11:37:56 AM »
Doi detect a touch of cynicism here  :D

Maybe a bit of resentful disappointment.  ;)
I am rather curious about the movie though. I intend to ignore the name completely and just watch it as a fantasy flick.

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #37 on: 01 August 2013, 11:55:10 AM »
If you dare, you can have a look at the 1962 movie. I say 'dare' as it's three and a half hours long. Of course there is sloooow action (except for the final battle, which it's totally cool) and lots of Japanese introspection and debate about duty and honour. (I believe there is even a previous movie shot in 1941).

I don't know why they keep the same title, don't really think it can be taken for a remake, nor the movie or the original story. Maybe another kind of approach would be more successful.

Offline Dal

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #38 on: 15 August 2013, 08:55:04 AM »
Hmmm what next.... 

 Keanu as an Edo period law enforcement officer...

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Offline Legion1963

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #39 on: 20 August 2013, 07:28:51 AM »
Not to fond of Mr Reeves either. However, it was the first serious 1/35 scale modelkit that i did sp i might watch it, at some later date and for only that reason and curiosity.

Offline starkadder

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #40 on: 20 August 2013, 07:39:33 AM »
I don't know why they keep the same title, don't really think it can be taken for a remake, nor the movie or the original story. Maybe another kind of approach would be more successful.

The 47 Ronin story has a similar cultural echo to the OK Corral in the US or Ned Kelly in Australia. Everyone in Japan knows the story and just wants to see that generation's interpretation. Sadly, this generation's version has been corrupted by manga and short attention spans.

I have copies of of Mizoguchi's 1940s version and Inagaki's 1960s version. It's really useful to look at them as cultural mirrors of their times. I much prefer Mizoguchi.

Offline Slayer

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #41 on: 20 August 2013, 09:44:30 AM »
well i seem to be the only one who is looking forward to watching this, i go into a movie expecting nothing but to escape reality and have something resembling a plot....   
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Offline white knight

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #42 on: 20 August 2013, 10:02:21 AM »
I think it could be a fun movie, the only reason they're getting so much preemptive flak is that the title made people expect something it's not.

Offline Vermis

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #43 on: 20 August 2013, 12:32:22 PM »
I think it could be a fun movie, the only reason they're getting so much preemptive flak is that the title made people expect something it's not.

Yeah, funny how slapping the name of an established story on a movie will make people expect something resembling it.  ;D
I've thought it a few times: "I dunno what that was, but they shouldn't have called it X 'cos it ain't that!"

Offline white knight

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Re: 47 Ronin Movie
« Reply #44 on: 20 August 2013, 01:11:13 PM »
I agree they only have themselves to blame. They were trying to cash in on an established subject while doing their own thing and it backfired.

This being said, how many young people really know there is something else called "47 ronin" out there? Or give a fuck?

 

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