Really small US fighters? (Hopefully a more clear question than before)

[Machinegunkelly]

(Sorry I wrote it in abit of a hurry and came out unclear. I´ve tried to clarify)

So in the future section of LAF, I have a thread where I am trying to build me a small game inspired by the old X-Com UFO: Enemy unknown computergame. I´ve been pondering a way to get the "shooting down" the UFO into the tabletop game as it is a part of the computer game.

When I asked my fellow hobbyist about rules and miniatures I didn´t get to much result as I hoped, although some good ideas. Scratchbuilding a small UFO isn´t a problem for me, scratch building small airplanes are, so I will need to buy those.

I could use some help finding manufacturers for small Us jets fighters and a rule system for dog fighting with Jet air planes.  

Pics of the jets compared to a 28 or 15mm mini would help me.

[Wilkins]

Small jets I think, to fight a larger alien spaceship. Made me think of Independence Day but could be wrong!

[Johnno]

It sounds like Machinegunkelly is looking for a manufacturer of miniature airplanes and would like comparison pictures taken with 28mm or 15mm figures for scale?

Unfortunately not my area of knowledge.

[Westfalia Chris]

I guess it depends on what scale of plane you are after.

I have a couple of Tumbling Dice' 1/600 scale pewter aircraft, unfortunately no pics. Those are quite well done, with sharp contours and capture the overall appearance of the aircraft well. Fighter aircraft are between 2 and 3cm in length. Tumbling Dice have a lot of ranges from WW2 to modern aircraft - I have WW2, Korean War, Vietnam and some moderns, and they are all fine, although the earlier ones are rather small and have less detail due to their size, which is okay with me, as you wouldn't be able to make out panel lines and the like at that scale anyway.

If you are actually looking for "small" jets in a scale fitting 28mm or 15mm figures, I'd suggest looking into 1/72 and 1/144 model kits - I take it that they are not supposed to land on the table, so a smaller scale will look okay.

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

Tamiya make sets for use on 1/350 scale ship models (approx 6mm scale)

http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/78006aircraft_set1/index.htm

http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/78009aircraft_set2/index.htm

They also make 1/350 ships crew.
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/12622crew_set/index.htm

You could probably also use 1/300 scale models from GHQ.
http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/nato-aircraft-fixed-wing.html

Regards
Mick

[Machinegunkelly]

Those really small fighters are what I am looking for. Its just that if I could get a scale picture with something I can relate to is quite good to decide if it is what I am looking for.

[Sarmor]

Apart from Tumbling Dice, there are 1/600 planes from Oddział Ósmy (available in the US from Pico Armor), which are IMO better - nicer details and better proportions.
Here's a comparison:

From left to right: Mirage III (Tumbling Dice), A-10 (Oddział Ósmy), 28mm mini, F-15 (OO), 25mm mini (the angle's terrible, I know), F-16 (OO), 15mm mini.

1/300 & 1/285 minis are made by GHQ, Scotia Grendel and several other companies - these would be good too, a modern jet fighter would be more or less 5cm long (I only own WW2 planes from these companies, and they were smaller than modern jets).

1/72 and 1/144 planes would be good as support for 28mm/15mm ground forces, but for air battles these are IMHO too big.

[Machinegunkelly]

Thanks those are great. Poland is just next door to so it´s no problem.

[Machinegunkelly]

Have you got a link to OO webstore? I had some trouble finding it.

[Conquistador]

Have you got a link to OO webstore? I had some trouble finding it.

Having trouble finding it but I have an old e-mail - marcin2501@wp.pl

Gracias,

Glenn

[ink the troll]

If you can't find their online shop (I only managed to find the facebook page), Fighting 15s in the UK sell their stuff  (http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/oddzial-osmy-172-c.asp )

[Machinegunkelly]

Thanks.

[Conquistador]

Email reply - no online shop, try Fighting 15s in UK.   

Okay, guess I was delusional about a web site...   

I blame old age and insanity.   

Gracias,

Glenn

[Gunbird]

Do take note that the OO stuff is made from a very, very hard alloy and drilling them for stands and magnets is very frustrating. SInce I magnetbase all of my 1/600 I sold all of my OO off cause it was really getting on my nerves. The metal is also a bit brittle, don't try bending things back or you risk snapping them.

Tumbling Dice is perfectly fine for me these days, easier to convert which is a major boon to me.

Didn't Scotia sell 1/300 scale large and small flying saucers? I distinctly recall purchasing some, then selling them off again. Or some other company...failing memory here.

[Sarmor]

OO never had a shop, you have to order via Fighting 15s or via email: oddzial8@wp.pl

True, their metal can be frustrating to work with, fortunately there usually isn't much to file. Drilling is tough (but not impossible!) unless you have an electric drill.
Snapping is a problem with barrels only, you'd have to use much strength to break off anything else.