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Offline Vermis

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(INDIEGOGO) 6mm plastics Scale Armies
« on: 14 May 2013, 03:29:13 PM »
Well, not plastics just yet. For your perusal:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/6mm-scale-armies

« Last Edit: 30 January 2014, 06:43:03 PM by Westfalia Chris »

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #1 on: 15 May 2013, 07:03:27 PM »
Interesting! My suggestion would be to ditch the bases though and concentrate on getting more infantry and vehicles on the sprues though. They are also a bit similar to imperial guard with chimeras and orks with battle wagons too...
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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #2 on: 15 May 2013, 07:35:38 PM »
Seconded. More akin the old Epic sprues.
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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #3 on: 15 May 2013, 07:38:56 PM »
Just a technical question: is there an extra cost to make each model different? Ok, beside the sculpting cost (which is not that high honestly)


I mean, i understand that each sprue has to be identical to the others, since the single mould is really expensive. But as long as one mould is one piece of metal, why should it be cheaper with all the figures in the same pose? Expecially when the figures are really small, and modifying them is cheap and fast.

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #4 on: 15 May 2013, 08:30:16 PM »
All questions and issues I thought of myself. :)  Answered in the forum link down the indiegogo page.

Lots of people have wondered about the bases on the planned sprue. From what I've been told, this sprue is designed to contain all someone (or sometwos) might need to build two (pretty) basic opposing forces, at or about the lowest cost possible. Including seperate bases would be an extra expense, but IIRC that's one of the stretch goals that would see changes to this initial, basic sprue.

Ditto with the poses. I'd guess the remodelling of the basic trooper is a relatively low (but not insignificant!) cost, and yeah, it all goes into one mould; but I asked this myself, and I was told the extra expense of extra poses was in setting the cutting machine to cut said extra poses from digital files.
The cost to do this for each pose? I nearly fell out of my seat: £600. Before kickstarter fees, paypal fees, manufacturing, delivery, etc.

(I wonder if that applies to ye olde method of 3-ups and pantograph cutting? Should've asked that too.)
« Last Edit: 15 May 2013, 08:35:19 PM by Vermis »

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #5 on: 15 May 2013, 08:32:16 PM »
Argh, hit 'quote' when I meant 'modify'.

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #6 on: 15 May 2013, 09:14:47 PM »
Interesting! My suggestion would be to ditch the bases though and concentrate on getting more infantry and vehicles on the sprues though. They are also a bit similar to imperial guard with chimeras and orks with battle wagons too...

I agree, skip the bases and add more models. Bases are easy and cheap to get from other sources.

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #7 on: 15 May 2013, 10:17:27 PM »
I was told the extra expense of extra poses was in setting the cutting machine to cut said extra poses from digital files.
The cost to do this for each pose? I nearly fell out of my seat: £600.

Hum. that looks crazy. O.O

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #8 on: 15 May 2013, 10:47:04 PM »
While I have zero interest in it (though reasonable 6mm plastics for modern wargaming would be intriguing) they do remind of the old Epic, in a good way.  About 20 years ago, EPIC was actually a pretty cool, fun game.  I think they really slaughtered it with the re-release some years later.

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #9 on: 15 May 2013, 11:36:59 PM »
While I have zero interest in it (though reasonable 6mm plastics for modern wargaming would be intriguing) they do remind of the old Epic, in a good way.  About 20 years ago, EPIC was actually a pretty cool, fun game.  I think they really slaughtered it with the re-release some years later.

Shame.

you said that, 20 years ago. Those minis look 20 years old already. If they can't afford a higher quality  level of minis, maybe they should change their plans. Personally i don't see why i should need "counters" instead of minis, when Dark Realm games have such a great abundance of models: http://www.darkrealmminiatures.com/

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #10 on: 15 May 2013, 11:43:57 PM »
Wow, there is more plastic in the sprue than the product there. 
No thanks....

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #11 on: 16 May 2013, 12:47:06 AM »
you said that, 20 years ago. Those minis look 20 years old already. If they can't afford a higher quality  level of minis, maybe they should change their plans. Personally i don't see why i should need "counters" instead of minis, when Dark Realm games have such a great abundance of models: http://www.darkrealmminiatures.com/

 :?

I'm not going to argue with you if you dislike the quality of these renders; that's your choice, and I don't think they're just perfect myself. But I bought a bunch of DRM minis when they first appeared on the scene, and I honestly wouldn't say those early rush jobs are a huge improvement on these.

Pics of the first stretch goal are up in the gallery - splitting off the bases to another sprue and pushing more infantry and a couple more vehicles on the first.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/6mm-scale-armies?c=gallery

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?p=475919#p475919

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #12 on: 16 May 2013, 01:45:10 AM »
I agree, skip the bases and add more models. Bases are easy and cheap to get from other sources.

Please!  I use Litko for all my basing needs from 3 mm to "giant" superheroes.

Just my dos centavos.

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #13 on: 16 May 2013, 01:49:42 AM »
Well, not plastics just yet. For your perusal:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/6mm-scale-armies



I have given this some thought and decided "no" because the "humanoid aliens" just don't cut it for me.

I will await something that catches my interest more and the pocketbook will follow.

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Re: 6mm plastics on Indiegogo
« Reply #14 on: 16 May 2013, 04:43:24 AM »
They're interesting. I like the old Epic feel they have even to the point of forgiving the old epic quality they look to have, but the only 6mm gaming I do anymore is Battletech (at least until Robotech hits) and I've never felt the need to field anything in Battletech that isn't a big stompy robot.

The new sprues are definitely an improvement, but I think a few more poses are gonna be necessary before many people consider this. After all, you can still get the Epic figs and the plastic infantry are actually pretty reasonably priced. The metals are ridiculous, and the vehicle prices are a joke, but the Epic plastics are a good deal. Or were, I hear GW is ditching all specialist games. Still, I hope these guys get started and it does well for them, more figures on the market is never ever a bad thing.
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