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Author Topic: Help needed: Moulding detail from one shield to transplant onto another  (Read 3989 times)

Offline myincubliss

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I've been trying to make one-part moulds using Bu-Stuff to transfer detail from one shield to another (a lion, for my ASOIAF Lannisters), but it doesn't seem to work as I'd imagined - has anyone else managed something similar and can proffer some tips, or am I on a fool's errand?

Full trials are at http://deadleadproject.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/experiments-in-one-part-moulding.html, but it's largely encapsulated in this picture:


Offline Svennn

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Being a little older in the tooth I have never used, or even seen, either blu-stuff or liquid greenstuff.  I have however managed to do similar with just good old fashioned green stuff.  Grease master, cover in GS, leave to set, push in fresh GS and either A: (tricky) transfer to new shield whilst wet or B: let set and then transfer over.
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Offline Roebeast45

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I've had good success with Instant Mold from Cool Mini or Not:
http://roebeast.blogspot.com/2011/05/messing-around-with-instant-mold.html

Or you can buy the same material somewhat cheaper here:
http://www.artclayworld.com/prod-696.htm
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Offline CompanyB

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Get two part silicon mold putty.  It's the consistency of silly putty and hardens to a flexible mold in 5 minutes once mixed.  Buy in bulk as the stuff from cool mini, and other shops is the same stuff, rebranded and repacked (more expensive)

http://www.makeyourownmolds.com/silicone-plastique

Then you can use miliput or any putty in the mold, even two part resin.  Miliput is great since you can use water to make it more of a cream, and flow it into the molds with a piece of plastic.  Easy to sand too once its dry to make the pieces thinner.

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Since it is a one time part, you have another vote for insta-mold. 
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Offline zizi666

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Siligum will do the trick.
http://www.thegiftofcreativity.co.uk/Siligum-Crystal-Resin_B23UEW.aspx
No need for the resin, just use GS.
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Offline myincubliss

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So the collected wisdom of the LAF is that it's a Blu Stuff issue and not something I'm doing wrong (that's pretty much the opposite of what I was expecting  lol) - my Green Stuff and Instand Mould have been packed away after my young lady wanted some flat surfaces back, so I'll have to dig them out and have another try...

Offline 6milPhil

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Also lubricate the mould to aid release... warm some vaseline and just rub a very small amount over it before adding the casting medium, or even a quick short spray of a wax based polish. I'd be tempted to use miliput and miliput, so long as it's lubricated it won't stick together

Offline myincubliss

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I've used milliput in Blu-Stuff moulds before, so I might fall-back to that if (hopefully not when) my attempts with instant mould and greenstuff (now located) don't work out satisfactorily...

Offline Andze

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I would use Instamould, itīs perfect for this simple one part mould.
And reusable, if your not happy with the mould.

Hereīs a short tutorial:

http://www.herebegeeks.com/games/instamold-review-and-quick-urban-basing-tutorial/

Anders

Offline myincubliss

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Right, I've taken everyone's advice and I've had another crack - using Instant Mould and proper green stuff - long story: http://deadleadproject.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/experiments-in-one-part-mouding-part-two.html

Short story:



We'll see how they dry, and if I can trim them down to superglue on to the receiving shields. If not, I'll have a crack at trying a thinner layer of green stuff in the mould, and transferring it to the receiving shield whilst still wet...

Offline Ramshackle_Curtis

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I would have a go at filing the back part off the shields you have made. I use procreate, which can be filed better than green stuff, but I have heard that mixing miliput and greenstuff works fine, and gives a harder material, so easier to file. File with a large metal-work file. They look really meaty and imposing, but you can do really fine work with a huge file. Plus a half round file will make the curved back surface easier to make.

Offline Glitzer

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I got better results when I combined Instant-Mold with GF9's grey stuff or Magic Sculp. The copied pieces' details ended up crispier than those I did in green stuff.
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