Bob Olley to do Steampunk / VSF Dwarves

[lou passejaire]

Since the arms look to be armored it makes sense to have pauldrons of some sort in the shoulders. Since it also has the benefit of hiding the shoulder seams as white knight pointed out, it all makes total sense.

I like these.

i'm not sure about the armoured arms ... on 2 figs at least
but i'm sure about the hiding ... GW virus 

[Varangian]

They're all wearing heavy leather backed gloves or gauntlets. I imagine that it's armored arm sets that gets buckled on over their dusters.

[dampfpanzerwagon]

Looking good.

Tony

[Colonel O Truth]

Who said anything about GW doing VSF dwarves? I was merely stating that VSF shouldn't look so overtly 40K-ish. The sculpts are lovely, but the shoulder pads are a mistake.

And surely a sculptor as experienced as Mr Olley should be able to hide shoulder joins without resorting to gigantic armoured shoulders.

I'm tempted to buy these, but will be carving off the pads and resculpting the shoulders.

[white knight]

And surely a sculptor as experienced as Mr Olley should be able to hide shoulder joins without resorting to gigantic armoured shoulders.

Having some experience with getting sculptors to do multipart modular figures, I'll point out that while it's not very difficult to design some arms to fit one one specific body in one specific position without having to resort to such techniques, it becomes a wholly different story when you need to be able to add arms in different positions and swap them around from one body to another. At that point, it becomes nearly impossible to form a subtle attachment that will look good in all the combinations and positions.

[Colonel O Truth]

Granted, White Knight.

However, I have yet to see multi-part Celts, Romans, British Line Infantry, Mahdists, etc etc with huge shoulder pads because 'it's tricky'...

I get that I probably have more of a problem with this than many readers out there. Just making a point.

[white knight]

Yes, and we've seen GW's humans go back from the fully modular sets, which looked like action figures, to all the bodies in the box holding the almost exact same pose, see empire statetroopers and crossbows.

In addition, those figures you mention are injection moulded plastic though and the metal moulds allows, in principle, for a tight fit. Metal figures are made from rubber moulds, subject to shrinkage, which will affect the separate parts differently, based on the orientation the part has to take in the mould to cast well. This results in the different parts being warped in different planes and just not having the identical shape and size from the original green, leading to noticeable joining points, which you need to be able to cover up somehow or they will become too obvious.

No problem with you making a valid point, just chipping in with some things I picked up through experience with this sort of thing.

[Eisenfaust]

They are beautiful, and if you want to see the non-shoulderpadded civilians, maybe get behind this one so Bob can continue going from strength to strength and us bobbies, and chimney sweeps, and thieves, and vicars, and all the other people who would populate a Victorian (dwarf) street scene.

I drool over these and Bob's photos at Dispatches from the Rim:

http://bit.ly/17bfscI

[beefcake]

I'm another for not liking the shoulders, there are other options for hiding the seam as well. Why not have some vsf tubing going from a backpack reaching over the shoulder. Backpack straps are another option that hide seams. Some could be wearing waistcoats, that would hide the join also. Plenty of options that fit the theme of vsf other than shoulder pads.

[Pendrake]

Didn't the Victorians have a contraption for hiding the shoulder-joint called an epaulet? When were epaulets invented?

  Would those do instead of shoulder pads?

I suppose what is sculpted in those greens could be painted as shiny brass or well-worn leather.

[lou passejaire]

epaulets where in use during franco-prussian war
during maximilian expedition in mexico
during crimean war
during napoleonic wars
and even in mid-XVIII century by officers , at least in France ...

[Conquistador]

If I helped divert the discussion of the fundraiser I apologize. 

Now, I hope it does well (I am sure it will do well) but for unrelated reasons I cannot participate.

For what they are , they are fine work as always from Mr. Olley (speling?)

Gracias,

Glenn

[thebinmann]

It's live now, if only I hada reason to buy them....

[von der Tann]

It's live now, if only I hada reason to buy them....

Bah ... who needs a reason? 

[Tacgnol]

Shoulderpad controversies aside the scrunt thugs should be gorgeous if they match up with the concept art. Me likey.