Need Help with McDeath prices

[Chico]

Ok boys your help is very much needed. A player in my Wargaming Club is looking to sell a complete McDeath set.. Yes that's right a complete set and it's unpainted. He's asked me to find out prices for him. So anyone know a rough idea of price for a complete set or individual prices?

I'll keep everyone informed when it goes up for sale, atm its just price hunting.

Many thanks
Chico

[Earther]

One human soul.

[Cubs]

If I recall, the original purchase price for that was £100 (saving something like £30-£40 on individual purchases). There's a big ol' bundle included too (I'd love to have them myself but there's no way I could afford it) if I recall correctly.

Now some of those models are very rare indeed and hardly ever come up on sale, so certainly I wouldn't be surprised to see a £500 price tag. How much does someone want them and how much can they afford really? You only need two people with money to spend and the price will keep going up.

I happen to be painting up some for a customer and he's trying to source some of the rarer ones. I don't know if he's minted enough for the full set but I'll PM you about it.

[Donpimpom]

what exactly a complete set means?
no idea how much could be a fair price for a set, but if he takes as reference evilbay he can ask for a big stash of money, since one by one this kind of models reach silly prices quite fast.
Past Sunday I was eating popcorn while watching the last 20 seconds of am assortment of Lichemaster auctions, I wonder if some Lafer was there too.
Only the Lichemaster model was 223€, Mikeal Jacsen 119€, Riolta Snow 10€, Grimwald 5.96€,  fritzy 7,96€, Lorabeth 10,15, Hun 27,46€, John-Boy 5,96€ , Antonio 10,15€, Aibi Schutz 9,55€
No idea how many more you need for a complete set of Lichemaster, but the 500BGP suggested by Cubs sounds like a sensible estimation

[Cubs]

Here's the original price list.

[Chico]

Thanks for everyone help and I'll pass along all the info to Charlie. No doubt he's going to be a happy bunny indeed.

Note:
This is also just a start of a rather large collection which will be up for sale, i'll keep everyone informed as and when

[LeadAsbestos]

The last Lord and Lady McDeaths I watched went for $225 each.

I've got a few of the minis from the set, but it will be a cold day in Hell that I'd pay that much for a mini, even if I could afford it, which I cannot.

That 100GBP deal included 20 of this and 18 of them and 16s of whathaveyou, so yes, what does a complete set mean to this seller? Just characters? 1 of each pictured?

[FramFramson]

Just FYI, he'll probably get more for it if he sells it as a set.

I know that's not true of some collectibles, but for something this rare, a complete set ought to command a premium.

[maxxon]

The price with this sort of stuff is highly dependant on finding someone who wants it AND is willing to pay a premium.

Sure, I'd like a set myself, but I wouldn't pay much over the original sale price. It's more nostalgia, collectability and curio value than them being lostech relics that cannot be obtained anymore. I could build a "McDeath" set easily with modern figures, that quite frankly would be better in every respect except not being the original set.

What you really need to figure out is how much you need to get for it: Put that as reserve price, stick in on eBay and let the market decide.

If you're trying to figure out what would a "fair" price to sell it to a friend... well, it really depends how good a friend.

[Donpimpom]

not sure if the "reserver price" option is still available for all the ebay countries.
As far as I know it has been removed from many ebay divisions.
I certainly agree, the value a such kind of set would be 100% as a collectable item, valued for quality status and scarce availability.
That requires a rich collector (two would be better) willing to pay for these values.

I wonder why nobody tries to release legal and well done recast of these old models, like the few models recently released by Foundry, i'm sure the total amount of nostalgia sales would be worth.

[maxxon]

not sure if the "reserver price" option is still available for all the ebay countries.

Then just put the starting price up. That will scare off a few bidders, but IMHO it's more honest anyway.

The biggest problem with re-release is probably that GW has the rights and they have zero interest digging through archives or even wasting time discussing transfer of rights.

Even if someone could get the rights, the molds and masters may be lost or damaged. That's a lot of ifs for a relatively marginal item.

[Cubs]

The problem with a high starting price is that you sometimes end up with a lower total at the end, because as already stated, potential bidders might get put off early. Bidders will almost always go higher than their first intended price if they get involved in the auction at a low price and then get hooked.

But of course, there is always that risk that it may go for a lower price than you'd be happy to accept if you don't do this. At least a higher starting bid means you don't sell at all and keep the item.

It's a choice the seller must make and live with really, there's no guaranteed method that will tick all boxes. Personally, if it's something I don't really want or need, I always start the bidding low to maximise the chances of getting some emotionally attached bidders fighting against each other. You can't be in this hobby if you don't like to roll the dice!

PS. I would never recommend getting a 'mate' to put a bid in for a certain amount, to ensure that you get at least this much. That is called 'shill bidding' and can lead to exclusion from eBay ... if they find out.

I would never recommend this.

Never.

[maxxon]

Shill bidding can also fill the criteria for criminal fraud in some jurisdictions.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/digitallifestyle/news/?newsid=3229366

The seller needs to decide which is more important: getting the best possible price or absolutely not selling under a certain limit.

[Chico]

Hey all,

Thanks for everyones help, just waiting on pictures to be taken and sent to me then everything will be up for grabs.

[Commander Vyper]

Chico. Pm me the full details and I'll post on collecting citadel miniatures.  I'm sure he'll get a better price from some of the lead heads on there than fleabay in the first instance.