Historically inaccurate ancients.

[Andrew May]

Hello all, funny question but I'm wondering if anyone would care to share some links/images. I looking for the sort of romanticised/thoroughly inaccurate depictions of Romans and other ancients ("barbarians", Greeks, Turks etc)that were common during the C19th. It's for a fantasy project but I thought that this would be a better place to ask!
Cheers.

[TheBlackCrane]

Like this?
The book has one or two images which might be useful - the cover is of a 'Pict', of which inside there are more, plus ancient Germans with large shields, antlers and not a lot else on.. although the volume is more focused on earlier periods generally. I'll see if I can do some scans from my copy later on/over the weekend.



There is quite a bit of that sort of imagery about for 'Celts'/'Picts' and so forth though if you search through antiquarian iconography and descriptions.

[Andrew May]

I've seen the ones you mention! but would appreciate anything really.
Romans are my primary interest though.
Cheers

[Korwin Miniatures]

There is book called: The Historical Encyclopedia of Costume by Albert Racinet. First edition was in France in 6 volumes in 1876 - 1888. There were later editions from 1988 in 1 volume with over 2000 illustrations. If you can not find it let me know. There is about 30 pages about ancient world. I can scan some for you when I will have bit more time.

[OSHIROmodels]

Certainly not Romans and a bit out of the time period but the Foundry Vikings (with the additions of helmet horns) would certainly lean to wards the more Victorian view.

Also, I there are some Sparten types that are also heroic (Crocodile Games I think).

cheers

James

[Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye]

Meyrick's Medieval Arms and Armor...a Dover Publications book.

[Andrew May]

Thanks, it's more pictures of how Victorians imagined them that I'm after but all useful nonetheless. Will look up that book, Howard.

[Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye]

I have the book...may be able to do some scans.

PS. Make them 28mm... 

[Andrew May]

There is book called: The Historical Encyclopedia of Costume by Albert Racinet. First edition was in France in 6 volumes in 1876 - 1888. There were later editions from 1988 in 1 volume with over 2000 illustrations. If you can not find it let me know. There is about 30 pages about ancient world. I can scan some for you when I will have bit more time.

Scans would be nice if you get time. If it's useful stuff I can buy the book.

[Prof.Witchheimer]

I have the book...may be able to do some scans.

But please don't post any copyrighted material here on forum.

[Korwin Miniatures]

I googled images: Albert Racinet, and here you go:

[Cubs]

There's a series of 'historical' murals in Manchester painted in the 1800's. This one is the founding of the city by the Romans.

[Andrew May]

Thanks all, Prof too!

[peachy rex]

A chap named Guizot wrote a book called L'Histoire de France, published in 1870 - the illustrations are splendidly inaccurate in the best 19th century manner.  The same applies to Ward Lock's 1885 Illustrated History of the World. (I don't have either of them, but a number of plates are reproduced in a modern book called Warlords, with contemporary illustrations by Angus McBride, may he rest in peace.)

[Maichus]

You might get some interesting stuff by searching for 'Hermann der Cherusker' (the name Arminius of Teuteburger Forrest fame is/was often refered to in German), although not everything from the period you are looking for.

During the 19th and early 20th century right up to the Third Reich he was stylised to be a 'true' or even the 'the first' German hero. Some of the sites you may end up might be right winged, be warned!  

Some examples:







Apparently there was a silent movie shot about him in the early 1920s:

Hermann/Arminius:


Varus: