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Offline Fortescue-Smythe

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Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« on: 12 June 2008, 02:38:23 PM »
Hi all,
looks like I might actually get back to my 1/300 Sky Galleons project this summer, which brings me to my question:
Does anybody know if there is a place that sells those vacuforemd styrene sails (the ones you get in plastic modelling kits) singly?
Or, if such a thing does not exist: any ideas on how to manufacture picturesquely billowing canvas pinions for those scourges of the Martian Celestial Main? In a light-weigth manner, so as not to compromise my antenna flight stands?
Regards,
Claes

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #1 on: 12 June 2008, 02:40:35 PM »
Have you looked into plug forming? It's incredibly easy to do. I've made aircraft canopies that way.

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #2 on: 12 June 2008, 02:59:19 PM »
Uhm, no, never heard of it, and my google fu is weak.  :)
Could you please expound?

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #3 on: 12 June 2008, 03:37:03 PM »
It's just vacuum forming, but without the vacuum part.

The styrene goes in a frame or support, just like VF.
The styrene gets gently heated up, just like VF.

The difference is that instead of the whole thing being on a vac table, you just press it down over the form. Boom! You're done. For most small projects it's just dandy.

I had another thought: You could use a replacement slat from vinyl window blinds! It's already curved as if filled by wind. All you'd have to do is cut out the sail. That's even easier than forming!

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #4 on: 12 June 2008, 03:39:32 PM »
I had another thought: You could use a replacement slat from vinyl window blinds! It's already curved as if filled by wind. All you'd have to do is cut out the sail. That's even easier than forming!

That's pure genius!

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #5 on: 12 June 2008, 04:08:57 PM »
It's just vacuum forming, but without the vacuum part.
The styrene goes in a frame or support, just like VF.
The styrene gets gently heated up, just like VF.
Sounds easy, up to the heating part. What sort of temperatures would I need, and what would I use for heating? Are we talking blowtorch rather than hairdryer here?

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I had another thought: You could use a replacement slat from vinyl window blinds! It's already curved as if filled by wind. All you'd have to do is cut out the sail. That's even easier than forming!
I tip my hat to you, sir, that's a splendid idea. Those are only curved on one axis, but at the scale I'm shooting for, that will probably not be noticable at all. Now to explain to my wife why we won't need those blinds in the basement anymore...  :D
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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #6 on: 12 June 2008, 04:29:28 PM »
Sounds easy, up to the heating part. What sort of temperatures would I need, and what would I use for heating? Are we talking blowtorch rather than hairdryer here?

I used the kitchen stove (which also has convenient work surfaces nearby). Styrene gets soft at surprisingly low heats.

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I tip my head to you, sir, that's a splendid idea. Those are only curved on one axis, but at the scale I'm shooting for, that will probably not be noticable at all. Now to explain to my wife why we won't need those blinds in the basement anymore...  :D

Blame the cat. Cats and miniblinds are natural enemies.

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #7 on: 13 June 2008, 08:49:22 AM »
Sounds easy, up to the heating part. What sort of temperatures would I need, and what would I use for heating? Are we talking blowtorch rather than hairdryer here?

I used the kitchen stove (which also has convenient work surfaces nearby). Styrene gets soft at surprisingly low heats.

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I tip my head to you, sir, that's a splendid idea. Those are only curved on one axis, but at the scale I'm shooting for, that will probably not be noticable at all. Now to explain to my wife why we won't need those blinds in the basement anymore...  :D

Blame the cat. Cats and miniblinds are natural enemies.

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #8 on: 13 June 2008, 09:20:26 AM »
Sounds easy, up to the heating part. What sort of temperatures would I need, and what would I use for heating? Are we talking blowtorch rather than hairdryer here?

I used the kitchen stove (which also has convenient work surfaces nearby). Styrene gets soft at surprisingly low heats.

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I tip my head to you, sir, that's a splendid idea. Those are only curved on one axis, but at the scale I'm shooting for, that will probably not be noticable at all. Now to explain to my wife why we won't need those blinds in the basement anymore...  :D

Blame the cat. Cats and miniblinds are natural enemies.

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Re: Where to get vacuformed styrene sails?
« Reply #9 on: 13 June 2008, 10:43:13 AM »
That cat ploy, alas, is not feasible, as I suffer from an allergy to animal fur. Which leaves me regretably de-felidaeted, regretably so, as I am quite the cat-fancier (and I just hope that does not sound like some sort of sexual innuendo).  ???
Anyways, I digress: thanks muchly for the tips Pete, I'll include slats on my next trip to the DIY's list.

 

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