Speaking of things I have not seen in a report...

[Conquistador]

I may have just missed it but has there been a report where the Cavalryman talent has been used in a game?

Trying to figure out how the Federales might use that against the Mexican Freedom Fighters... well, of course they would call them rebels!

Gracias,

Glenn

[former user]

Isn't there always a shortage of cavalry miniatures outside medieval and napoleonic wargaming? that might be the reason....

[Mick A]

Plenty of Wild West figures mounted and dismounted then there are Dragoons as well...

[former user]

then there are Dragoons as well...

? ? ?

[Mick A]

Dragoons were mounted infantry so figure makers tend to do mounted and dismounted versions. Franco Prussian war ones would look rather good for this period

[former user]

I know what dragoons are, what I mean is that I don't know other mounted military of the late victorian era than the huge piles of British available. And there certainly are not enough civilian mounted types or military characters, unless you want to make an old west posse. Which to me reads as the "shortage" I meant before. Let's say there is a limited offer on mounted character miniatures as opposed to walking ones that fit the IHMN demand.

[Craig]

Northstar do a number of mounted Boers and Western figures that might come in handy

[former user]

Yes, but it is either this "frontier style" or the British Imperial style, or a few Indian or Turkish/Egyptian characters, so it is limited.
You cannot even do a proper late 19th century camel troop if You don't want british soldiers

[Conquistador]

Just trying to find pictures of "Mexican Farmer" with any 1880/1890 year associated in a Google search show lots of Braceros, Cowboys, and other stuff related to the date but not usually what is identified as Mexican Farmer specifically.  Links will always be appreciated...

Part of the challenge is

1) cultural (If there are other Hispanics * who are more familiar with subject than I am - mostly my knowledge is from my Ti'a [English keyboard, sorry] who was "Middle Class" Mexican citizen until recently and snippets from older Mexican-American parents of my friends growing up in SoCal - please speak up,) because of the highly stratified Mexican social classes in the 1880s - 1900s **

and

2) technological (Upper Class people could afford professional photography and few Photographers from the early period seemed to have an interest in taking pictures (that still exist today) of other classes at that time.

IHMN/HVF has Farmers only on foot and Ranchers with optional cavalry horses (not specifically forbidden to have "horses" (IHMN, page 28; HVF, page 9,) so I am proceeding on the assumption "riding horses" are always allowed but not usually used in IHMN adventures/battles.  Finding figures for "that" will probably be even harder, especially if I ever move IHMN gaming to 15 mm!)

Heck many of the articles that use "Mexican Farmers" in the text seem to end up about people who became Generals or highly successful landowners.  

I will keep looking and consider the possibilities...

Gracias,

Glenn

Edit:  Anyone who can point me to how to access language characters other than English on a MAC please let me know - I can do it at work on our PCs but have yet to find it on any MAC...

* Part of my heritage is Spanish-American on maternal side and the whole self-dividing of Hispanics in America is a subject of "great delicacy" for discussion on LAF which I will ask not be broached on the forum other than to say people like to draw lines in all cultures...          

** These being the years closest to IHMN          [and I found the most interesting "verbal pyrotechnics" between Mexicans/Mexican-Americans when I asked about life/history after about 1900.]    

[former user]

well, from my limited knowledge, the issue about farming in Mexico at that time was the disenfranchised small subsistence farmers versus the rich landowner who tried to get rich by farming whatever could be sold, cattle and wine, fruit etc - hence all the revolutionary stuff going on (actually no very different from today's problems)
So in terms of miniatures You would have either the simple white garment with straw hat and huarache etc (as shown nicely in the "Magnificent Seven" movie), vs the charro style of those who found imployment in herding cattle. Of course the rich upper class would strive for european fashion, and the urban population would wear the same cheap stuff as everywhere else in the world.

Could the Osprey book on the mexican adventure not be of some use?

[Conquistador]

<snup>
Could the Osprey book on the mexican adventure not be of some use?

Can't hurt!  

Like I need an excuse to buy another Osprey... Research, Beautiful Princess, research!  [actually my wife {the crafter/scrap booker/quilter} has never questioned any hobby buy I make for some reason... ]   

Gracias,

Glenn

[Stepman3]

Empress miniatures do a fair share of mounted units for the Brits and if you can get them Foundry does some as well Perry do some also . As for main character types with both mounted and dismounted I had to convert some of mine. Also for your Mexican couldnt you use Franco Prussian war french?

[Mick A]

With all the plastic 28mm mounted figures out there conversions are a lot simpler these days, especially for the 1900's.

[former user]

With all the plastic 28mm mounted figures out there conversions are a lot simpler these days, especially for the 1900's.

please enlighten me - do You mean the plastic napoleonic and ACW cavalry?

I'm serious - I would like to have the opportunity for some European-non-Brit late 19thC cavalry

[Conquistador]

I think 1835n is too early https://repository.library.brown.edu/studio/item/bdr:231311/ so maybe more like this?  I have doubts about posting the image...

It will be the top left picture (Helmet and sword) of this set...

The Mexican criollos S XIX
www.forumbiodiversity.com - 518 × 760 - Search by image
Officer of the Mexican Dragoons.

Same picture fourth on top line here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mexican+Dragoons%22&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=l4v3UvmfAZTYyQHaqICQDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoATge&biw=1251&bih=593

Gracias,

Glenn
 

Off to New York Public Libray digital pictures to search