modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?

[lou passejaire]

i have heard that , in Narvik, no french vehicles were landed , not a single small car, only the H39 Tanks of the 342th CACC .

then i found those pics ...


of 1 Peugeot DKJ5, unidentified unit , taken after operation alphabet
and this pic

Renault UE , unidentified unit, in the ruined streets of Narvik

and this pic of what seem's to be a british AA gun and tractor around Namsos ...


let's go for some vehicles  

a Renault UE will soon be produced by Mad Bob Miniatures , and i dream of a Peugeot DKJ5 .

[ancientsociety]

Fascinating. This is why I always shake my head at the "rivet counters".

[tomek917]

Great pictures!

The Renault UR is such a funny little vehicle, I'll definetly get one!

[lou passejaire]

funny and quite usefull :
front line supply carrier
artillery tractor for 25mm gun
carrier for the MG and mortars
and even

in Indochina

[Etranger]

The bottom one in the first set is indeed a British gun, 40mm Bofors, along with it's Morris tractor. It looks like the driver put the wheels in the ditch and the gun rolled.

The UE carriers with the MG cupola are two of those intended for export to China and also used by the French in Indochina. http://indochine54.free.fr/cefeo/afvs.html#top

[lou passejaire]

the truck on the right of the upper picture seem's to be a British truck too .

so the Bofors around Narvik is one of the 3e Light AA Bty ?

[Etranger]

Yes, a Bedford MWD by the look of it, an early model with the aeroscreens rather than a proper windscreen.

 Not sure as to the unit for the Bofors offhand.

[lou passejaire]

it was the only AA unit in narvik ...

[emosbur]

The vehicle in the background of this pic is a french tractor Somua MCG5.



http://atf40.forumculture.net/t1057p15-les-chars-engages-du-cote-francais

From this order of battle, it seems that some vehicles had to be desembarked as support of the 342eme CACC:

http://www.atf40.fr/ATF40/documents/norvege/342%20CACC.pdf

And the 2ème groupe autonome d'artillerie coloniale at least would need tractors for its guns.


Emilio.

[lou passejaire]

yep, seem's that were desembarked in Narvik :

The Renault UE of the FFL

some (5) hotchkiss H39 , at least one TRC Lorraine 37, and a Somua MCG5 of the 342CACC

Unic P107 towing the 75mm guns of the 2 GAAC and the somua MCG5 lost on the beach ( as no vehicles were lost by the 342CACC except the 3 H39 )

some Peugeot DKJ5 , quite sure some Laffly S15R , a lot of motorbikes (FFL recco unit , artillery spotters, mechanics of the 342CACC ), .

The Landing in Narvik was well organized, not the one in Namsos .

[former user]

I always wondered whether this vehicles could be used for the french

[lou passejaire]

i'm not sure ...
if someone ,some day, produce a fiat 500,or Simca 5 ,  it's the same car and some were used .

[former user]

I understand it is a Kurogane Type 95 "Daruma"

it is not the same but very similar to the fiat topolino or simca

[Etranger]

i'm not sure ...
if someone ,some day, produce a fiat 500,or Simca 5 ,  it's the same car and some were used .

Gasoline already do in 1/48. http://www.modellismo48.it/dettaglioarticolo.aspx?idarticolo=GAS50050&idlingua=1
Tamiya do one in 1/35 & they sometimes downsize the same vehicle into the 1/48 range.

[lou passejaire]

1/48 car with 1/56 tanks does not work 

i have had some problems with the MLC , i scaled them in 1/48 , and they were toooooo bigs for the AGN H39 tanks

i have a Traction in 1/48 , too big for 1/56 laffly w15 and H39 ...