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Offline lou passejaire

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #15 on: 24 August 2014, 09:47:57 AM »
I understand it is a Kurogane Type 95 "Daruma"

it is not the same but very similar to the fiat topolino or simca

the fiat topolino / simca 5 is a very very small car with small wheels, quite different  ;)

Dans les situations critiques, quand on parle avec un calibre bien en pogne, personne ne conteste plus. Y'a des statistiques là-dessus.

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #16 on: 24 August 2014, 10:14:28 AM »
yes, it is the wheels indeed, but the Kurogane is not large either, it has only 3 seats

anyway, it is the level of accuracy that will always separate our approaches ;)

or would You use captured italian vehicles for the free french in north africa?

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Offline lou passejaire

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #17 on: 24 August 2014, 11:32:03 AM »
italian vehicles ( and guns ) were used by the free french in north africa , at least from Koufra .

i have, somewhere some pics of Leclerc Supply column with a mix of civilian trucks, chevy , and some italian trucks .

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #18 on: 24 August 2014, 11:49:17 AM »
Interesting to know, THX

so, nothing from Eritrea then?

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #19 on: 24 August 2014, 01:34:23 PM »
mainly guns , seem's that the british send some 47/32 AT guns captured in Eritrea to Leclerc Force L

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« Reply #20 on: 24 August 2014, 02:04:49 PM »
I suppose this is a french source that I cannot read?  :?

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #21 on: 24 August 2014, 03:24:50 PM »
it's a french paper source ... called "les soutiers de la gloire" in "bataille et blindé n°10"
5 may 1942, an order to Capitaine Dubois to go to Wadi Halfa from Faya Largeau to carry 2 british 25 pdrs, 4 italian 47 guns, 50 tonne of ammunitions back to Faya Largeau .

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #22 on: 24 August 2014, 08:17:49 PM »
did they use the sahariana trucks or the AB 40/41? there must have been some loot from the saharan company in Kufra

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #23 on: 24 August 2014, 09:55:41 PM »
no, trucks were Lancia 3RO and Dovunque 35, and some  AS37 .
Force L only armoured cars were some Laffly 15 TOE
But they use a lot of chevrolet ligth trucks

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #24 on: 24 August 2014, 10:03:38 PM »
I have AS37 though

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #25 on: 24 August 2014, 11:04:07 PM »
you have to think of Leclerc Force L as some kind of Long Range Desert Group, attacking the axe post in southern desert .
( and even his own air force of 1 squadron of Bristol Blenheim )

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« Reply #26 on: 25 August 2014, 05:53:59 AM »
Yes, I know that very well. This will probably be my free french force for North Africa. But I don't have much source material on that after Kufra. I don't even know what they did after the general retreat following el Alamein. It appears to me the brits "pulled the plug" on the free french because they had to deal with the Vichy "Armee d'Afrique" in preparation for Torch

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #27 on: 25 August 2014, 11:11:09 AM »
leclerc column raided and achieved the conquest of Fezzan in 1942 . then joined the British for the Tunisian campaign .
i didn't have more sources ...
this one , but in french : http://www.fondation-leclerc.com/99/leclerc-et-ses-hommes/colonne-leclerc-2eme-db/fezzan-lybie/fezzan-tripolitaine-1942-1943.htm
and this one :
http://grat.over-blog.com/article-1er-mars-1941-la-colonne-du-tchad-s-empare-de-koufra-122775825.html

there is an english source http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Victory_in_the_Fezzan.html?id=BiPTAAAAMAAJ but long out of print


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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #28 on: 25 August 2014, 11:31:26 AM »
merci beaucoup

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Re: modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?
« Reply #29 on: 26 August 2014, 10:43:08 AM »
Haha
Interesting stuff. Reminds me of when I modeled Norway's National Tank: http://the-bloggity-blog-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/national-tank-of-norway-landsverk-l-120.html?m=1

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