modelling Norway campaign, the end of common beliefs ?

[lou passejaire]

Mr.Marx , nice little unusefull "National Tank" 

back to Narvik :
armored unit fuel and ammunition supply carrier
TRC Lorraine 37L and trailer 342th CACC  :




Mad Bob miniatures lorraine 38 L ( Armored infantry carrier )

, with a little conversion ... a bic small lighter for the fuel tank, somr bitz added ( load, vehicle tools )

missing plate numbers ( i'll try making my own decals as i have a lot of vehicles who will need them ) .

Waiting for the Renault UE ( tow for the FFL 25mm guns ) and Citroen Kegresse P17 ( tow for the 75mm guns )

and i'm working on a laffly S15 R , radio truck .

VEHICLES WERE DISEMBARKED IN NARVIK !

[former user]

Yay! it appears You only waited for the release of the 13e DBLE to start the project   

yes, the L120 appears to have been a swedish prototype rejected by the swedish army and sold by Landsverk instead to the Norwegian army. Pretty interesting for "what if"  scenarios.
I was wondering how the Norwegians managed to mount theit stout and determined defence and counterattack. It would appear as the alleis only withdrew because of the german invasion of france

[lou passejaire]

F***ing sources 

half the sources ( in french or in english , i don't understand a single word of norwegian or german language ) give 1st Company  1st Battalion, 1st Fallschirmjäger Regiment parachute dropped at Narvik on the 14th of may  ...
the other give one company, 139 th Gebirgsjäger régiment dropped at Narvik after a short training ...

anyone can give me informations ?

[former user]

is it a book or a digital source You cannot read?
I knew of only one combat drop, not ar Narvik (but then, what do I know?)

maybe I can read it for You?

[lou passejaire]

i can't search in german or norwegian lenguage  , so i don't found any digital source ( and paper one  )

I have asked to some french WW2 military specialists and it seem's possible that both Gebirgsjagers and Fallshrimjagers were parachute dropped on Narvik .

[Poiter50]

I thought the Gebis were flown in by Ju52 & Condors?

[CorvetteK225]

2 companies from Gebirgsjäger-Regiment 137 parachuted into Narvik. They were uniformed (field blouse, trousers, mountain boots, etc) as GJR soldiers, but equipped (jump smocks, jump helmets, ets) as Fallschirmjäger.

David

[lou passejaire]

arghhhh 2 ospreys says that they are from 139 th Gebirgsjäger
french ministery of war ECPAD speak of gebirgsjägers dropped .

reinforcement came by Ju52 and Dornier, 75mm guns, pack 37, ammunitions ...

on the french side, it's quite net, we have the Order of Battle , and even the vehicles ...

[CorvetteK225]

Every reference I have found says GJR 137. Here are some great pics of the GJ jumpers (I was wrong in my earlier post about uniforms, note the Jäger with the FJ trousers!).

 

[bobhope]

had  friend who was ex of HMS Aurora and piloted a lighter taking FFL (well mostly spanish from what he said) troops ashore at Rombaksfjord,
inspired a skirmish 28mm plan for a while
but there wasnt much around at the time- seems to be much more available these days
some very good french sources re: materiel -must dig them out again

(apologies for random hijack waffle)

[former user]

yes, this is the big problem I have with figuring out the Infantry force "Legion Etrangere" together with armoured vehicles.

I can follow the modern light infantry concept as mountain troops, and also the later paratroop role.
But the combination with tanks....
unless it is the REC or the GRDI 97

[lou passejaire]

don't forget that the french "doctrine" for the use of tanks was "infantry mobile bunker"  .

and yes ther were a lot of spanish republicans in the 13th DBLE

[former user]

the french problem was that there was not tank doctrine, there was an "armoured enhancement"  for all arms doctrine. Every WW2 participant rthat did not install a totally new tank arm screwed up big time.

The only ones who could pull this off "old-style"  were the brits, because of their brigading concept and combined arms doctrine before. And even they needed a few years adaptation

[emosbur]

Interesting pics here:

http://www.ecpad.fr/le-corps-expeditionnaire-francais-a-namsos-en-avril-1940/



Emilio

[lou passejaire]

Interesting pics here:

http://www.ecpad.fr/le-corps-expeditionnaire-francais-a-namsos-en-avril-1940/



Emilio

bad translation, emilio, this picture is taken in France, in Brest, before loading ...
the cars and most of the equipment of the French troops never disembarked in Namsos ...