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Offline Brandlin

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Contract laser cutting - now with farcical responses.
« on: 10 December 2014, 06:28:33 PM »
I'm looking for a laser cutter that can undertake small volume model laser cutting in HIPS plastic and plywood.

I've directly contacted a number of manufacturers but I'm interested in recommendations and self promotion please.

UK ONLY.
« Last Edit: 13 December 2014, 01:20:13 PM by Brandlin »

Offline Major_Gilbear

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #1 on: 11 December 2014, 09:34:19 AM »
...I assume you've contacted Jimbibbly and Ian at Fenris already?

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #2 on: 11 December 2014, 09:37:26 AM »
I'm afraid I'm not doing contract lasering anymore  :)

cheers

James

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« Last Edit: 11 December 2014, 10:06:29 AM by jimbibbly »

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #3 on: 11 December 2014, 10:00:18 AM »
...I assume you've contacted Jimbibbly and Ian at Fenris already?

Ian is/was my supplier but is too busy.
Jim - no. But see last post lol...

Offline Major_Gilbear

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #4 on: 11 December 2014, 10:50:07 AM »
Ah, well, there you go!  ;D

Another place to ask might be on PC modding sites; I know that custom laser-cut cases in a variety of materials is very popular, so you might be able to get some good recommendations on sites like Overclockers UK. ;)

Offline Skyven

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #5 on: 11 December 2014, 11:49:17 AM »
I used Sarissa Precision a few times for mdf and have been very pleased. Not sure if they do plastic and plywood though.

Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #6 on: 11 December 2014, 10:36:44 PM »
A friend of mine recently had some work done by Cog'O'Two in Manchester recently. They do contract work in plastic etc.
So many projects..... so little time.......

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #7 on: 11 December 2014, 10:54:28 PM »
I used Sarissa Precision a few times for mdf and have been very pleased. Not sure if they do plastic and plywood though.

Thanks, they were already on my list.

A friend of mine recently had some work done by Cog'O'Two in Manchester recently. They do contract work in plastic etc.

Never heard of them. Will check them out thanks Dewbakuk.

Edit: just went through their site. Some interesting stuff. Never heard of them and reasonably local to me! Thank you. Have contacted them.
« Last Edit: 11 December 2014, 11:26:58 PM by Brandlin »

Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #8 on: 11 December 2014, 11:53:10 PM »
No problem. I have their zeppelins on my workbench currently, as soon as I finish the stupid Martians that are currently on it I will be building them up :)

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #9 on: 12 December 2014, 12:46:27 AM »
No problem. I have their zeppelins on my workbench currently, as soon as I finish the stupid Martians that are currently on it I will be building them up :)

I like their skeletal stuff... Especially the rockets. How are you thinking of skinning the airships?

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #10 on: 12 December 2014, 08:30:23 PM »
Probably not skinning the small, medium and big ones. Plan is to paint them up and add some weathering to turn into decorations. Short term I'll sneak them onto the Christmas tree :) In the longer term, I'm very tempted to mount them on wall hooks in my games room in an homage to the old ducks up the wall  :D

The large one will probably get skinned though. The gondola underneath is too small as is but the whole thing should make a good base for a project. I've skinned a primitive airship with a pva soaked shammy leather in the past but probably not suitable for this. Thin card would work but I'll probably have a play with an uninflated balloon and a thin papier-mâché layer. If it doesn't work the balloon will act as a skin separating the two so no damage to the Zeppelin skeleton.

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Re: Looking for a contract laser cutter.
« Reply #11 on: 12 December 2014, 08:44:14 PM »
If I was the, I'd sell a laser cut card kit to skin the airships, the panels are simple in CAD.

I was looking at their classic three pronged rocket, but turning the skeleton into something that is circular and not faceted would be near impossible.

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Adventures in finding a contract laser cutter...
« Reply #12 on: 13 December 2014, 01:19:08 PM »
UPDATE: back on topic.

In the last two weeks I have contacted 37... Yes, thirty seven ... outfits that advertise laser cutting services. That includes war games companies, craft companies and even bigger industrial outfits.

Many of them advertise a 24/48 hour response time.  Only 2 companies have responded in that kind of time scale, with only 11 responses in total after around ten days.

So far I have been told...

"It is not possible to laser cut HIPS." (Response, "It is possible, my current supplier has been doing it for me, if you aren't able to then I understand." Their response "Well f**k off and use him and stop calling me a f**king liar then!")

"We can't cut your geometry files, they are very damaged." (Replied, "can you tell me how damaged, because they have been cut dozens of times before without problem, I can re save or export in other formats if that helps?". Their response "Too damaged to look at. Send us a sketch of what you want and we'll redraw them at £45 per hour.")

"We can't cut 1.5mm plywood because of the glues involved, we don't have the fume extraction. Can this be done in 3mm MDF instead, we use this material almost exclusively." (Replied "I'm surprised as the glues in plywood are much less dangerous than the resins in MDF, besides the thickness of the material is important." Their reply "I didn't know there was resin in MDF?")

"We can't cut this in 1.5mm plywood, as that thickness doesn't exist." (Replied with links. "It's available in lots of places and is commonly used for aircraft modelling. Your website says you are experts in aeroplane model kits, hence why I contacted you." Their response "your kit isn't an aircraft, so we can't get 1.5mm ply. Please redesign your kit for a material that exists.")

"For 10 A4 sheets of your product we are happy to quote £1045 plus VAT, Materials cost and shipping." (Replied, "is this correct? That's over £100 per A4 sheet. Could you look at your calculation please, for this price I could buy a machine for the price of 20 sheets." They replied. "Laser cutting is expensive. You think you can buy a laser cutter for £2000 you go ahead.")

And my personal favourite...

"Sorry but we don't do laser cutting so we can't provide you with a quote." (Replied. "But your website says you do laser cutting on a trotec speedy 400 machine." Their reply "Does it? I thought that trotec was a laser printer.")

So, my experiences here are depressing to say the least. If this is indicative of the approach of these companies then they won't be around long. I admit some of these are big outfits and I'm making an enquiry for very small orders. I also realise that at the other end of the scale, small one man band operations may not have all the knowledge necessary.

The positive news is that I am in discussions with a couple of companies that seem friendly and prepared to help.

So thank you for your recommendations, feel free to add more if you have them.



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Re: Contract laser cutting - now with farcical responses.
« Reply #13 on: 13 December 2014, 01:28:36 PM »
Wow, just wow...

On the plus side, if you put wings on it, 1.5mm plywood suddenly exists!

Offline Cherno

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Re: Contract laser cutting - now with farcical responses.
« Reply #14 on: 13 December 2014, 01:29:47 PM »
I laughed out loud at some comments, especially the "I thought it was a laser printer" one  lol

 

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