French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?

[lou passejaire]

if you are not in a hurry, i think that the future Perry ones will do ...
an alternative is to contact Campbell Hardie as his unsucessfull french armée du levant kickstarter was quite ready to release . he is cgh on the LAF .

I searched for suitable askaris for BM senegaleses , and found nothing ... ( wrong weapons, wrong uniform, wrong pouches and belt ) ...
Officers and NCO's were mainly europeans .
The AA battery was colonial, so europeans officers - NCO's, natives servants .
For the equipment, the costal battery was manned by sailors, short sleeves, shorts and sun helmet .
i have no pictorial evidence of the militia company .

[Happy Wanderer]

Thanks Lou,

Much appreciate. Nice work on chasing that stuff down 

...perhaps the Eritreans will do until the Perry Senegalese are done...may be the smart move...

Cheers

Happy W

[FramFramson]

Damn shame that Kickstarter didn't come off.

[lou passejaire]

IMO, the kickstarter failed because it was a bit on the expensive side .
20€ the section without NCo and VB was a bit expensive , with the £ been high ... for 1£ more you have enough to build 2 sections from Perry ...

but it seem's that :

Thank you to all who backed this ultimately unsuccessful project.  However I am not giving up yet and the project will be relaunched in the near future with a different pledge pricing level and smaller objectives.   

Watch this space.

Campbell

[Arlequín]

True, but I sort of expect to pay more to help a line be created. For me though, with no NCO and VB in the section and having to commit to 6 sections to get 2 officers etc., it was a bit too much.

From a customer's perspective the presentation was a bit unprofessional too. Unless I am mistaken, the French start a title with a capital letter? Of course you would also expect 'Legionnaire' to be spelt correctly too. This is fine on a forum or a blog, but when you a selling a product it gives the wrong impression. Lack of updates, not pushing the project on forums with constant posting of pictures, also contributed. You have to create a 'need'.

I do hope he does carry on with it, but also learns a lesson or two from this time.   

[lou passejaire]

i hope he understood what Bob has told him :

Bob Emmerson on May 1

I think this project will be able to make it with a little reworking.
A slightly lower funding goal perhaps, but the main thing is to proof read everything and fancy stuff up for a professional look that people will trust.
Not starting the campaign on April first is another consideration

I do hope he does carry on with it, but also learns a lesson or two from this time.    

He has paid the sculptor and may be th moulds so ...

[draxx66]

Well this is useful, as for something slightly diffrent we atarted a VBCW 1938 campaign in the Horn of Africa at our club recently (only two games so far and they were reported on the VBCW forum). One of our members is using FFL as his faction, this may encourage him (not that he needs much encouragement) to get some tirailleurs sénégalais.

[Happy Wanderer]

I know these are not the same as the proposed Kickstarter French (that would appear to be on the money), but how do you think the Perry miniatures Free French in shorts would go for potential mid '30s desert fighting french? Mostly in Kepi I was thinking. Would any head swaps work...Adrian helmets?

...not perfect, but is there anything that makes them decidedly unusable for say a 1935 French desert force from North Africa or Syria? By that I mean, even thought the uniform may not exactly be the one we have pictures of, like the Kickstarter ones, are the uniforms and equipment these Perry minis have completely wrong and in no way what or how a French Force could be dressed this way in 1935?

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_74_84&osCsid=162k5u30l30lh12hi3sdt42s81




Cheers

Happy W

[Arlequín]

The kepis are fine for FL, they dropped the distinctive 'Beau Geste' style cover after WWI. If anything it is the British gaiters and socks that mark them as FFFL and not actual 'French', who wore puttees... as well as other 'British' equipment items they may have sculpted on. The scarves are typically Interwar FFL, although I don't know if other units used them.

[Happy Wanderer]

...so if these Free French had in some way acquired british gaiters and socks by chance, then if they deemed them better than their own kit, they would more or less fit the bill....given that they have a decidedly 'French' look to them...shorts, scarves and kepi...which are the really distinctive French features 

...and off course they would be Free French of WW2 as well!

....mmm.....thanks

Happy W

[Anna Elizabeth]

^ I'd guess that it wouldn't be too difficult to file the lower legs down and re-sculpt puttees, if Anypony were so inclined to do that.

[Arlequín]

...so if these Free French had in some way acquired british gaiters and socks by chance...

... and time travelled three or four years into the future. The British were also wearing puttees in 1935. 

[Happy Wanderer]

"..so if these Free French had in some way acquired british gaiters and socks by chance..."

Bugger!

Bloody Brits...where is their fashion sense!

...gggrrrr 

[Arlequín]

Bloody Brits...where is their fashion sense!

I'm going to be the better man and let that one pass... glass houses and stones and all that mate!  

Actually, Ms Elizabeth is probably on the mark though... if only the socks and gaiters are the issue, then surely they can be altered? 

[lou passejaire]

and it's a pity that the Perry's sculpted the french with gaiters ...
i see a lot of pictorial evidence of socks , or even no socks at all :