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Offline kingsmt

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Zouaves
« on: 02 April 2016, 02:19:12 AM »
Here are two different Zouave units painted by John Bryant with Flag Dude flags. I must admit that the flags really dress these units up.
I'm about halfway through the basing process. I forget what regiments they are. I have it in one of John's emails.


















Offline bulldogger2000

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #1 on: 02 April 2016, 03:55:16 AM »
Pardon me for asking...but I have seen the same thing on others figures...exactly how long were color staffs on average in the ACW?  Scale wise these look to be about 20 foot long.  I keep mine scaled to about 12.  Am I cutting them to short?

Offline kingsmt

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #2 on: 02 April 2016, 06:45:55 AM »
Honestly, I have no idea. The flags were attached when I got them.

Offline bulldogger2000

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #3 on: 02 April 2016, 12:41:00 PM »
You got me thinking and I had to look it up... :D. Regulation dimensions for the colors was 6' on the hoist and 6'6" on the fly.  Although some variation existed 9'10" pike was regulation length...when...now I feel better!  LOL

Offline Sterling Moose

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #4 on: 02 April 2016, 01:36:14 PM »
Nice figures and I love Rick's flags too.

Ref dimensions what is 'hoist' and ' fly'?

I'm having the same issue with British flags of the period.  With the butt of the pole on the ground I'm thinking that the bottom of the flag starts 6 feet up, so figure wise would just be above head height on the figure.  Thoughts?
'I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free.'

Offline skip

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #5 on: 02 April 2016, 02:21:05 PM »
i would go for what looks right, the bottom of the flag being at least an inch above the models head as not to obscure the figure

brian

Offline bulldogger2000

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #6 on: 03 April 2016, 12:59:59 AM »
"Hoist" refers to the Vertical
"Fly" refers to the Horizontal

Offline has.been

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #7 on: 03 April 2016, 08:51:32 AM »
The flag poles are, in my opinion, too long. Some 15 years in the Sealed Knot (ECW re-enactment) and every time our regiment was photographed you could only see the Ensign (Dereck I do mean you) as the flag would be fluttering across the faces of the rest of us.

Offline Jabba

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #8 on: 03 April 2016, 01:54:07 PM »
Great figures, as to the length of the colour pike not sure about this period but Napoleonic British were 9 feet ten inches including the ferrule for a colour that had a fly of 6 feet 6 inches and a hoist of 6 feet.

Tony

Offline fastolfrus

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Re: Zouaves
« Reply #9 on: 05 April 2016, 08:39:52 PM »
No matter how thin the flag, you find a huge drag on the cloth in any breeze.
The longer the staff, the harder it is to control.
An 8 or 9 foot staff can be managed single handed if there is no breeze, but if you go for a longer pole - anything above 10 feet - and it gets tricky. Also, longer poles bend (and can break) if it gets really windy.

But lovely looking figures. Nicely painted and based.
Gary, Glynis, and Alasdair (there are three of us, but we are too mean to have more than one login)

 

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