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Author Topic: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)  (Read 8533 times)

Offline dlmos

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 10:24:09 PM »
lol that's no problem, I didn't realize you were planning on selling them.

And on that note......where's my wallet?....

Offline Janick

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2009, 01:12:47 AM »
That is amazing...this gives me inspiration for the house I'll be working on in the future!  :D

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2009, 09:47:54 PM »
Beautiful stuff Elladan. I have never heard of balsa foam before. But I easily found a place to get it now. You building certainly makes me want to give it a go at making some modern buildings. Thanks for sharing :D.
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Offline Heresy

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2009, 11:12:39 PM »
Hello!

Thnx for sharing your work!...I've visited your website and I love your fur tabletop! There are many inspirational ideas.


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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm) - 1. Update
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2009, 10:07:07 PM »
Hi,

it is time for my first update.

The last weeks I worked on the construction of the roof. I wanted it to look ralistic but castable with single sided molds.

In a first step I built a small section with two beams and roof battens.


I cast some of this pieces.


Then I glued them together and cutted them to the right length and width. Then I cut the base of the beam in an angle to match the upper side of the sidewalls and the upper side of the beam with a notch to support the beam for the roof ridge.


At this time I decided to built an intact roof first. This will allow me to test if the parts fit together and will hopefully save me time when I built different destroyed parts later. So I made a mold of the finished roof construction and a timber for the roof gable.


With the first casts done came the critical moment to see if all will fit as planed and measured. I provisional set up a relative intact building with not so much damaged wallpieces (casts and masters). Then I superglued the beam for the roof ridge to the notch of the first roofhalf. Next I sperglued the second half to the first, using the ridgewall as a guide for the right angle.

The result can be seen on the next pictures.






But there had been some problems with the casting of this roofpieces. The roof battens on the left and right are very fragile, because they are very thin and narrow. Some of them broke very easy in the processes of demoulding and cleaning up the parts.
Based on the model of steel concrete I put thin floral wire into the mold before the casting. That worked fine.The result is very durable "steel resin". On the next two detail shots you can see the green wire shine through the beige resin.





To be continued ....

Many more pictures can be found here on my homepage: http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm


I will work on parts with the pantiles next and post more pictures in a few days/weeks.

Ciao

Elmar
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Offline Remington

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2009, 10:37:57 PM »
Great stuff! I am glad you found a way to solve the roof problem. It looks really good.

Does the top side of the beam-piece show any wood texture? Or is the wood texture visible on the "inside" side? I hope you understand what I mean.  ::)

A pity the first building has no space to support a roof. I guess I'll have to buy this one as well. And I won't be sad at all if I do.  :D Worth every cent.

Offline Christian

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 03:52:29 AM »
Yessss very nice! I hope you haven't just left the painted walls as as they are though? I may have missed that in tripping over myself to reply to the thread :D

Have you ever considered casting the entire wall? Then you could have plenty of buildings...

Very interesting thread, I'll be looking on eagerly :)


Offline Geudens

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 09:40:33 AM »
My hint for you: It is very importent to pour the resin very slowly and in small amounts into the mold. So the material can slowly run into the smaller parts and there are only few or no air bubbles.
I hope this helps.
Ciao
Elmar
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Another old trick is to brush resin in the fine details deep in the mould prior to pouring resin is: the air will have time to escape to the larger sections of the mould before the main chunk of resin hits it and will thus pose no problem.  BTW, you are doing very well, nice design work!

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Offline Elladan

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 08:10:49 PM »
@ Remington
The parts are cast in single sided molds - so three sides of the beams and roof battens have wood structure engraved in the masters and cast. My tip for the fourth side is to use rough sandpaper to give this side some structure too.

@ Christian
Sorry but I didn't understand your question - if you mean if I made molds of all wall pieces and other parts the answer is YES. I can cast lots of houses if everything is finished. An It could be many different looking houses because many walls and parts can be combinated in different ways.

Ciao

Elmar
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Offline Mancha

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2009, 08:42:04 PM »
The floral wire idea is pretty ingenious.  However, that's going to significantly increase construction time, right?  This wouldn't be a problem, I would guess, just making nine or ten for your own use.  But if you're making lots of them to sell...

Offline Ook

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2009, 09:20:02 AM »
That looks fantastic :-*
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Offline Ramshackle_Curtis

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2009, 10:19:38 AM »
I really like the brick texture you have made!

Offline Heresy

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2009, 11:00:08 PM »
Hello!

Great job! It's the first time that i see a modelling house detailed!
You're done a handyman!!

Cyu!.

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (28 mm)
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2009, 08:28:02 AM »
Thats a fantastic job  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Offline Elladan

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Re: WIP damaged building for WW II (Update roof)
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2009, 10:07:17 PM »
Next update:

This time it was time for the modelling of the rain gutter and the pantiled roof.

The Rain gutter is made of a piece of half plastic tube as a basis. I added some wax for more thickness and cast some of this small pieces in resin.






I glued them on a piece of plastic card and added a small plastic rod to achieve the typical shape of a (german) rain gutter.



The pantiles are made from a recast of a roof for modelrailway buildings. The attachements were sculpted with modelling clay.



Here comes two pictures with some casts of the finished roofparts attached to the model.




to be continued .....

More pictures and informations can be found on my homepage: http://www.elladan.de/

Ciao

Elmar


 

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