The end and new beginnings of Dredd

[Ulfhednar]

Thanks, they're excellent, the Command pack look useful but are maybe a bit too down to earth military. Maybe it's just the way Warlord painted them though in plain metal they still give the impression, the Sov Judges are like Romulans or something, sinister in a very slick way. These looked good below, comic book style, more discontinued figures I was lucky to find.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=142089505013&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=TF94EA&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=3&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1

And may one day get the mercenary fire team gang, after I;ve painted what I've got so far :-) Lots in that Street Violence range useful for Mega1 gangs.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/street-violence/streets-collection-bcsv001/

[mcfonz]

The old Citadel Judge Giant is available from miniature heroes at the moment: http://miniature-heroes.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=516_517_544&products_id=29142

[Ulfhednar]

I still have all my old Citadel Dredd stuff I bought at the time but somewhere else, need to pick it up and check through what I have (all Judges and perps, no exotics like fatties but know I have a Judge Giant). I'm assuming most is going to be slightly too big but I'll see. They probably did the best Dredd, probably best Anderson too, and their Judge Reed was hot :-) Probably best Judge Death too, more decayed than the modern ones that just look too well fed. And their Angel Junior looked maddest of all. Hope they don't get the licence back though, everything new they did would be properly too big and I'm too invested in the more delicate Warlord range now.

There's loads of old Citadel Dredd stuff on ebay but it's crazy prices for stuff the dog didn't chew. Miniature Heroes price is really good though, thnks for link I'll keep an eye on their site :-)

[Ulfhednar]

Dredd's a definite style though and it's about fitting stuff in, and it's skirmish wargaming so individual figures get more attention, I think the right look & avoiding duplication helps immersion loads (and helps to motivate the effort to paint them well too, whole thing feeds off itself). Plus I want to concentrate on just one or 2 things, this, Captain Scarlet, maybe Rocket people, worth getting it right for the time it takes to paint them. Mongoose's old Gangs of Meg1 plastic troops had 2 citi-def in, and although apparently not good models (at least to try & work with, I think one is wearing the sign in the middle of the photo on previous page & looks excellent to me), they just look right and were posable. It's the uniforms and cartoon style, most other ranges look too real or are trying too hard. It's only a problem because the Warlord / Mongoose range was nearly there now it's potentially gone permanently. I hope this is just a gap and someone means to take this on and fill it out for wargaming / block war (that I thought was Mongoose's objective at one point), & Apoc War.

Found a few that fit in enough though (with East Meg as their Citi-Def / militia / military support), Kazak line old style, they even have a guy who I'm going to guess could pen a Holo Mk2 :-)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Infinity-BNIB-Ariadna-TankHunter-Autocannon-Ariadna-/390949928196?hash=item5b066e7d04:g:uSwAAOSwF1dUO8f4

[Mason]

I have to agree with you there.

Nothing to stop anyone playing JD without 'official' figures.
People have been 'doing Dredd' for ages without any prompting.
 

[mcfonz]

Agreed. "Official" didnt make the range good or consistant.

Too much is made of 'official' lines these days when there are so many alternatives out there.

My memories of Dredd are topical things at the time being written into storylines. Perps were everything and anything. Inspirations were clear to see. I believe there were even some crossovers.

Could be imagining it but I'm pretty sure I have seen Dredd vs Aliens but that may have been more recently.

The only representations that dont really exist are the more specific races.

[Vanvlak]

Could be imagining it but I'm pretty sure I have seen Dredd vs Aliens but that may have been more recently.

Don't know about Alien, but definitely Dredd vs. Pred
So I am quite happy with the few Predator models I have, a handful of judges and Sov judges, and stuff from other ranges from Necromunda gangs to Urban War Junkers (who, come to think of it, could be Imperial Roman style Judges).


These would be interesting....


OOP I think, but some boxed sets are still available for sale.

[Mason]

Scotia Grendel still stock them, and now you have gotten me looking at them:

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=60_74&sort=20a&page=1

Damn you, sir!
You are a terrible influence.
 


Edit: The Militia would be viable armed civvies for Block Wars too.....

[Vanvlak]

Scotia Grendel still stock them, and now you have gotten me looking at them:

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=60_74&sort=20a&page=1

Damn you, sir!
You are a terrible influence.
 


Edit: The Militia would be viable armed civvies for Block Wars too.....

Even though I omitted a link to Scotia Grendel?

[Ulfhednar]

But if you take that to it's logical conclusion, you don't even need any leads, Airfix 1/72nd would do.

It's the figures more than the gaming for me, from the point I was a tiny kid and found the figures from Ralph Bakshi's LOTR's film, long time before all the gaming really took off. The styles are / can be real art and getting it right so everything looks right together makes a big difference to the immersion, feel of it all and motivation. And I'm too long immersed in Dredd and the 2000AD style, remember buying the first issue for the frizbee thing. Maybe if you get strong influences and opinions as a kid you're more stuck with them. And I've made do mixing figures forever, however much fun it always looks a mess, I'm determined to finally get something really right :-)

Mongoose just had it right with the style in this range, and it was definitely them rather than Warlord, their original Gangs of MegaCity1 had plastic figures in but some of them were a couple of Judges they used for this when it started, the whole range is their styling. They're definitely stepping out of this licence / range, even if someone took it on and made it available again wouldn't know what to expect from any new releases, style might not fit at all. It's just bad or at least serious news.

It's a mare not knowing if this will come back into production again or not, still missing a couple of box sets I want that I can get from obscure retailers in Europe but the exchange rate and shipping is making them very expensive. And I'm still missing a couple of blisters I need that I have no chance of ever getting as things are now, save for odd ebay lucky finds that I'll have to pay loads for.

Re figures that fit the range, Konflikt 47 at true 28mm is definitely a bit too small (and think many other ranges might be same), but Infinity (at 30mm) match perfectly, the new stuff is too realistc and busy, but their OOP versions have exactly the same future comic / 2000AD style. I've now amassed an East Meg militia unit of around 14 figures out of them that look right next to the Soviet Judges. Still a big disparity against the volume of Meg1 forces I have (around 40 Judges + approx 15 Citi Def), but it's good enough for now and maybe once I've painted all these the range will be back on it's feet.

And yes Urban War stuff looks excellent. ScotiaGrendal's Void 1.1 Vasa Marines would make a great force of deputies for the Vatican or Banana City Judge, or as henchmen for a figure like Oola Blint, camp Batman style.

edit - re the robots are they Titan's? I bought a load of the Epic stuff when it came out (even have a ton of the original GW's 6mm metal space marines), packed in a box I did nothing with. I shall have a look if there's any Titans.

edit - another (I think old style) Infinity figure. Citi-Def / armed civilian (construction worker)? I have a 2nd CD command group that Mongoose released for Gangs of Meg1, offered on this range for a very short time before replacing them with the CD box set. Different CD uniform that I have no chance of matching in other figures, so they need some armed civilians for them to command:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Infinity-BNIB-Ariadna-Dozers-Field-Engineers-Akrylat-Kanone-/311130497293?hash=item4870d2a10d:g:rKwAAOSwAHZUO8kU

though may need knee pads and boots sculpting on, or chopping off above the knee and pinning on some Mega1 boots. Though maybe good as it is, I'll see.

This one is just good to go as East Meg militia / Citi-Def in a uniform they did on around 12 figures.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Infinity-BNIB-Ariadna-Line-Kazak-Missile-Launcher-/390949924180?hash=item5b066e6d54:g:Z6gAAOSwU9xUO8dw

edit - actually that's an excellent idea for Roman style judges, maybe forces to support the Vatican Judge?

[Mason]

Even though I omitted a link to Scotia Grendel?

You know exactly what you did!
 

[Vanvlak]

You know exactly what you did!
 

It did backfire though, I had never bought some of the interesting stuff they have - the female officer fits in with JD really well, and I just had to get a support weapon (which I might modify to fire stumm gas)..... so I got hoist by my own petard.

[n815e]

Too much is made of 'official' lines these days when there are so many alternatives out there.

This is a visually driven hobby.
Dredd's universe has some prominent characters, as well as a fairly unique look and feel.
"Official" here refers to miniatures that fit the established visuals of the setting, as opposed to "official" being something more along the lines of "if you play this game, you must use that company's official miniatures."

If you are happy converting and playing with non-Dredd stuff as Dredd, that's great.  I have plenty of those models in my collection.
If you want something designed to fit the setting, that's great.  I have plenty of those models in my collection.

Could be imagining it but I'm pretty sure I have seen Dredd vs Aliens but that may have been more recently.

The stories were called Incubus, I think.

[Ulfhednar]

I like fun figures :-)

Heads up. For those not getting advanced notice from being in contact from the kickstarter, Ebay user name Altsain (Mongoose) have put a new load of stuff on for sale, the studio painted ABC's on auction that will rocket, but some cheap character blisters too.

edit - do I need a Bat Burglar? It may be my last ever chance. Do I need another Oola Blint?

edit - and damn, looking at sold listings they had more on earlier today, exactly the ones I desperately needed. Hopefully some to traders and they'll resell them in a week or two. This is such a train crash of a situation, I don't get why someone can't say what's going to happen with the range going forward cuz in the mean time it's getting desperate & expensive.

[Ajsalium]

Let me tempt you with more proxies...

Heresy Miniatures have some troopers that could work as City-Def:

http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_61

And a must-have for any Block War; a full gang:

http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_15