The end and new beginnings of Dredd

[mcfonz]

Thanks buddy.

Klegg wise, Privateer Press gatormen might be better, or cheaper to convert.

If someone just did the heads, you could almost make them out of GW Orks . . . .

[Ulfhednar]

Kleggs are a good option thinking about it, they'd work as East Meg mercenaries and at least in terms of what my brother would want to play which is worth considering. I can't help keep getting distracted by human figures though. I can't afford to also get into pirate or alt historic gaming for a long time, but found Shadowforge's Laughing Monk miniatures Capt Janes Rifles before and am in love. Appropriately Dr. Who for Brit-Cit, I think they'd make great killer mannequin androids for some evil Brit-Cit arch villain (maybe Artizan's Dick Dastardly and his catch the pigeon engineers). I'm going to have to start making a list and plan, it's not just the money its painting it all too.







Androids that drink rum.

[mcfonz]

If you want bots, then why not some fembots? Oh Hong Kong Killer Fembots from statuesque miniatures to be precise:


http://statuesqueminiatures.co.uk/p/8774379/sm022-mei-lin-mayfair-and-the-hong-kong-killer-fembots.html

[Ulfhednar]

I looked at those and they make more sense from a sci-fi point of view. it could be they just need painting in the right way (maybe each painted in a metallic or primary different colour so obviously mechs & to give them some personality), but they're a bit too real and they've just not captured me. I wonder if they're sculpted digitally? I think I'm probably just too quirky :-) As an extreme example it's maybe a bit like why Dr Who (& Hammer) worked (not that I'm a fanatic, but), compared to modern sci-fi the production & special effects were a bit of a shambles, the props cobbled and thrown together from other stuff, it's lack of pretence / honest enthusiasm and its humaness made my imagination click and I'd be totally immersed, whereas stuff that's super produced with perfect everything like modern sci-fi & horror just washes over me. And it's not just that I was young, Red Dwarf that I saw when older was the same kind of thing. And maybe that's the thing with Warlord / Mongoose Dredd and it's slightly comic style, it's maybe more interactive.

edit - looking at them again and thinking them painted they'd work great. But I'm still getting Capt Jane's rifles. And I'm going to have to find some male enemy troopers at some point too. Although, I could do a female only Meg 1 (there's already quite a few female Judges, convert the mechanismos with some bumps and stuff) then it could be the Dreddess Miniatures game :-)

[Dr.Falkenhayn]

bit of a speculation: i wouldn't be surprised if Mantic takes up the License. They already sort of colaborated with Mongoose in the Judge Dredd Zombie Gang (Mantic Ghouls+Mongoose Metal Heads/Accesoires) that said

Edit: Forgot to mention Judge Martian in the Mars Attack Range and this of course  

[twrchtrwyth]

Slightly off topic but could someone take a picture of the back of the hand of the Judge armed with two lawmasters please? I'd like to check something.

[mcfonz]

bit of a speculation: i wouldn't be surprised if Mantic takes up the License. They already sort of colaborated with Mongoose in the Judge Dredd Zombie Gang (Mantic Ghouls+Mongoose Metal Heads/Accesoires) that said

That's a collaboration with Mongoose though - that's not a collaboration with Rebellion . . . . Not bad speculation though, they appear to have done well with previous licenses; Mars Attacks and now The Walking Dead - both based upon comic book / illustration too.

[Ulfhednar]

I haven't got a digital camera but have the male 2 lawmaster :-) giver! figure in front of me, the backs of the hands / lower arms are almost plain with only slight back of hand detailing (no strongly defined ridges), there's no pouch on the back of the lower arm like on some, no knuckle studs but then none of the others I checked have those either, though it may be different on kickstarters masters. I'll have a couple more copies of it after the weekend from a bundle and can compare.

Re Statuesque, I didn't realise the fembots were theirs, just looked at their site and realised who they are, was really impressed with their Resistance (thought would make a good pro East Meg militia gang) and impressed with their fembots when I first saw them, when you pointed them out I think I was confusing them with some other fembots I'd seen that were more nude and a bit much. It's still a problem though that so many of the best figures that fit into urban sci-fi comic Dredd are female. Shadowforge have loads, 15 Colonial Scouts with perfect helmets and Dredd style shoulder pads, 36 Politburo troops that would be perfect for Vril Cit, even a Bunny Girl Citi-Def Army for Oz Cit. It would probably be a good thing if I find they don't scale.

Re Mantic taking the game on, I hope someone does but wonder if Warlord would partner or want to do it on their own, and where the game itself is now commercially since they released it for free on the net. Warlord would surely want the figure range at least if the deal was right. And there's Rogue Trooper too, that has to have some value the figures were excellent, though more true 28mm than heroic, which is maybe more wargaming & Warlord. But regardless Mars Attacks Dredd is a gift, those Martian troops are cheap & excellent cannon fodder, straight forward to paint so they look proper (uniformed & detachable bubble helmets), totally work as an enemy against Meg 1 & the Martian Dredd model ties them in.

[mcfonz]

My guess is that if Warlord took it on, much like Mantic, they would want it to fit more in line with their existing game systems.

So, and this is pure supposition here, if it was Warlord, they might go down a similar route to the Terminator game they did, or perhaps Bolt Action - which I think is less likely due to already having a sci-fi game in their range. Mantic could use one of their systems - firefight, warpath, deadzone or even the new sci fi board game.

[Andym]

If you want bots, then why not some fembots? Oh Hong Kong Killer Fembots from statuesque miniatures to be precise:


http://statuesqueminiatures.co.uk/p/8774379/sm022-mei-lin-mayfair-and-the-hong-kong-killer-fembots.html

I looked at those and they make more sense from a sci-fi point of view. it could be they just need painting in the right way (maybe each painted in a metallic or primary different colour so obviously mechs & to give them some personality), but they're a bit too real and they've just not captured me. I wonder if they're sculpted digitally? I think I'm probably just too quirky :-) As an extreme example it's maybe a bit like why Dr Who (& Hammer) worked (not that I'm a fanatic, but), compared to modern sci-fi the production & special effects were a bit of a shambles, the props cobbled and thrown together from other stuff, it's lack of pretence / honest enthusiasm and its humaness made my imagination click and I'd be totally immersed, whereas stuff that's super produced with perfect everything like modern sci-fi & horror just washes over me. And it's not just that I was young, Red Dwarf that I saw when older was the same kind of thing. And maybe that's the thing with Warlord / Mongoose Dredd and it's slightly comic style, it's maybe more interactive.

edit - looking at them again and thinking them painted they'd work great. But I'm still getting Capt Jane's rifles. And I'm going to have to find some male enemy troopers at some point too. Although, I could do a female only Meg 1 (there's already quite a few female Judges, convert the mechanismos with some bumps and stuff) then it could be the Dreddess Miniatures game :-)

I can recommend a gold/yellow colour for them! .....

[Ulfhednar]

Yes they look excellent, and I realise now they're proper & Statueseque are a top company (some of their pulp are definitely on my list), it was different fembots (or maybe even just female fighters) I saw before (that had like crotch clamps that emphasised their nudity) put me off the idea in general. But these work really well, and the ones with the hair (or if they have swappable heads & I can get one with long hair or sort it with that green stuff) might make a perfect base for something I'd really like to try painting, a Mucha female as an Android. I saw some in an exhibition in that V&A museum once and they were stunning. It's art nouveau so keeps a bit a pulp / steampunk / handmade vibe.

[twrchtrwyth]

D'oh, I meant Lawgiver. The back of the hand of the dual wield judge. Lol.

[Ulfhednar]

Yes in cold light of day and looked at properly those fembots painted are excellent, I had completely the wrong idea about them, mistakenly thought they were gratuitously nude & were kits (and don't have good reflex opinion of kits after suffering Citadels first attempts that were very plastic) but actually they look like they're fully cast except for the swappable heads (for variety, and the helmet heads are great). Are they metal or plastic? (though in that robo form would work in either). As something that isn't in danger of going OOP / permanently out of stock in the next month or so though I shall add them to the end of my list for later on.

After - Killer B games Starhide cowboy robots (4 or 5) and possibly their Protectorate Guard (if they scale, about 15 figures), Scotia Grendel Void 1.1 Vasa Marines (10 of them all different), Blind Beggars People of the Sand when they become available, a few Lead Adventure, Reaper, Artizan, Hasslefree, and Copplestone figures, Laughing Monk's Capt Jane's rifles x8, and quite possibly the rest of the Shadowforge catalogue (for marine scouts and politburo). Shadowforge even do Dark Temple female greeks that look like they'd fit with my precious 80's Runequest figures and that I may need to get to stash (along with my Crooked Dice Captain Scarlet figures that I've just stashed).

And Black Tree Design have a decent Black Friday sale on their Dr. Who stuff today with lots of bits that might fit in for fun, and that's slowly disappearing, a few figures (like Davros) are no longer listed. It's crazy how many good figures (and figure producers) there are to catch up with.

[katie]

It's not just BTD's Dr Who range that's shrinking every time I look at at.

The Wood Elves range fits on a page now -- almost all of the "Fantasy Armies" figures are gone from it. Which is dull because I'd like to buy some of them. And I'm sure there are less ratmen than there used to be..

I have asked them about this, but never seem to keep their attention long enough to find out if these things are gone for good or just for remoulding or what.

I've had to start picking things like this up from Ebay instead.

[Ulfhednar]

I hadn't even noticed that fantasy range, it's massive, would be a real shame if that's disappearing. A lot seems to be like at WSD too, their Dick Garrison and Snowmen Wars are gradually going out of stock and apparently becoming unavailable. I guess a lot of ranges are a bit obscure, they wear out with the in the know enthusiasts as they get everything from them they need and they fail to get noticed by the less informed and newbies because of the new stuff that is so pushed & prominent, so the manufacturers let it slowly vanish. At least we knew Mongoose Dredd was becoming unavailable, though it was hard to know what was happening / that it was (potentially permanently) OOP listening to just Warlord who declared the stock sell off as an Anniversary celebration with no mention they wouldn't be restocked.

And scale seems to have caused a lot of ranges to get left behind, I've delayed on ordering from Black Trees (I think former Harlequin) Dr. Who range cuz unsure how it matches with Warlord Dredd, suspect it might be true 28mm and a bit small, but still feeling I need to grab some incase the really good stuff starts to disappear, and their sale today makes them very affordable. There's still robots that would work even if a bit small, everyone needs some metal Daleks and K9 is joining my robo-dog pack, but there's loads of human figures would work too.

Does anyone know how BTD (Harlequin) Dr. Who scales to Warlord Dredd?