I came across today ...

[Helen]

Well, it goes like this, as I was panning through various forums searching for selected articles for research I found these wonderful links and photos:

WW I , World War I in Asia, Aug - Nov 1914, Tsingtao the battlefield:

http://community.webshots.com/album/548305035mkUkbV

Jordan Front:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=149091

Here is the link (below) from where these photos came from and pick a year (click on the thum nail to enlarge) 1918 is a good year, but so are the rest of the war years:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_the_German_Federal_Archive,_year_1919

Captured Armoured Lorry (interesting read an one for the folks who enjoy there desert games with trains):

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=149556





Please enjoy,

Helen

[former user]

already doing madam, thx

what could these big boxes on the flatcar be for?
water tanks?

[Bungle]

water tanks, over axles.. gives a lot of weight.


Were they using pressure sensitive mines on railway tracks?

[former user]

wouldn't think so

but anyway every steam Loco is twice the weight of such watertanks at least
so detonating under the engine would be more interesting and then keeping the water 


but indeed, liquid is the heaviest freight available, so this must be the end of the train
and interesting, that the assault wagon is apparently guarding the water

[gamer Mac]

The light flat wagon, unloaded, would be very easy to derail if travelling at the front of the train. I would imagine that the extra weight would keep it on the tracks better. Where is the loco in this picture?

[former user]

yup

there isn't any loco to be seen, that's why I assumed the end of the train to be in thepicture

[Bungle]

I presumed the white blob was the armoured lorry.... (limited) motive power and armour?

[former user]

it is indeed, but even if self propelled, I hardly believe it can push/pull loaded freight carriages
it looks motorized though

at that time, such engines were customized truck eingines
Zaamuretz had two
the custom built austian one with two cannon turret bogies is the only one which incorporates a full diesel LOCO to my knowledge

[gamer Mac]

If you follow the link Helen supplied it explains a bit more -

"The next picture shows some of the recovered wagons at Mafraq station awaiting removal by the recovery train which was just a few metres to the left of this picture."

[former user]

hmmm
interesting
so far for educated guesses
it says thet the armoured trolley was able to pull the empty water waggon, but could move it filled only due to a favourable slope
very inspiring pics

[former user]

did not know where to put it, so I thought I make a slight jump back in time and join


filming of the armoured train scene for "Young Winston"
haven't seen the movie - was the scene set in South Africa ?

[Michi]

was the scene set in South Africa ?

It´s in Wales.

[Westfalia Chris]

It´s in Wales.

I think he´s referring to where the sequences are supposed to take place in the movie´s plot - which is indeed South Africa during the Boer War of 1899-1902 (IIRC), as it recounts a quite famous episode of Sir Winston´s life.

[Michi]

I think he´s referring to where the sequences are supposed to take place in the movie´s plot - which is indeed South Africa during the Boer War of 1899-1902 (IIRC), as it recounts a quite famous episode of Sir Winston´s life.

Accepted, though the scen still looks like in Wales. Although I´ve never been to South Africa and can´t tell whether it looks like in Wales or not. However the train looks British.

[Westfalia Chris]

Accepted, though the scen still looks like in Wales. Although I´ve never been to South Africa and can´t tell whether it looks like in Wales or not. However the train looks British.

Of course it looks like Wales since it was filmed in Wales... but it´s meant to be a British armoured train during the Boer War. From what I gather, around the rivers, the Cape Province could be rather green, similar to Northern Africa at times of the year. I don´t recall that much of "Young Winston" since it´s been a good 10 years since I last saw it, but I recall the train sequences to be more arid. But that may be my brain running wild and/or growing old (delete as applicable).