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Offline n815e

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Re: Chaos in the Colonies
« Reply #30 on: 30 September 2010, 03:58:53 PM »
The AHA website I linked to is not just some guy's review site, it's the site of the organization that certifies whether or not a movie has complied with the laws regarding filming of animals.  Their opinion carries a lot of weight, as far as I am concerned.

It's not just the wolf hunt, where did they get the dead animals they used in the movie?

Sorry, I really didn't intend on steering this thread away from it's original topic.  I was drawn to the topic because I think that Chaos in the Colonies is a great idea and I want to see how you guys develop it over time.

Offline Connectamabob

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Re: Chaos in the Colonies
« Reply #31 on: 01 October 2010, 01:50:25 AM »
Well, first you have to demonstrate the bodies were real bodies, and not SPFX props. Simply saying that they looked real isn't even legitimate grounds for suspicion, much less substantiating evidence.

As to the reviewer's AHA status, read what he actually says in his review. It's %100 blind speculation: he doesn't cite any evidence other than the images he saw in the final film. He doesn't even cite any circumstantial evidence. He doesn't cite or even imply any special knowledge or insight from the AHA. His only stated grounds for excitement are that the images looked real... to him (this is important: some people have a better eye for this than others). His entire shtick is trying to parley an open-ended unknown into a positive suspicion. His reasoning stands alone, and can be examined alone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority

He might be right, it's not like I actually have any more hard evidence than he does ;). However I would say that for most of his suspicions it is circumstantially extremely unlikely, and he really should be aware of this if he's anything close to knowledgeable enough about film production to justify his job. Furthermore, at least one of his suspicions is physically impossible without special effects, and two others can't be considered legitimate issues without extending similar complaints against any film that happens to show non-vegan food at any point, or even includes it anywhere in the craft services menu.

At the very least, the DVD releases of the film have multiple commentary tracks, making-of features, and other such materials likely capable of answering many of those questions, one way or the other.

I'm not trying to argue for or against any given position, mind you, I'm just weird in that I'm usually way more offended by illogical argument than I am by actual issues o_o. His suspicions have no logical or empirical basis: If he's right about any of it, it's purely by blind luck, and he tries to use emotional appeal to reverse the burden of proof (successfully, it seems: he's got nothing, but he still managed to put you in "guilty until proven innocent" mode). That's what bugs me.
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Offline elysium64

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Re: Chaos in the Colonies
« Reply #32 on: 01 October 2010, 02:21:00 AM »
have also started a Colonial Horror skirmish project (will be adapting the excellent Foundry Frei Korps rules)
available on request from Tim Peterson: gisby@mts.net  
For background information I have been reading the excellent Colonial Gothic RPG Rulebook
http://www.rogue-games.net/Games/Colonial-Gothic/page12.html
and the New World Almanac A resource website for Colonial Gothic
http://www.rogue-games.net/newworld/neworld.html
Along with the following novels
Rabble in Arms~Kenneth Roberts
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rabble-Arms-Kenneth-Roberts/dp/0892723866/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250535929&sr=1-1
The Traitors Crown series by C C Finlay
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=s14dzfgkF0AC&dq=c+c+finlay+traitor+to+the+crown&source=bl&ots=qxFoEzC9dl&sig=bXK2nlbS0IYzQ4u5fdhzJYyY8io&hl=en&ei=ZjOlTNb2O4qQjAft8PDFDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA

For figures I am using West Wind Gothic Horror Sleepy hollow range
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=2_20
West Wind SOTOR German Werewolves (about 2/3rds down the page)
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=126_146
Perry Miniatures AWI range
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html
Front Rank Civillians (GP3 and GP4 so far though plan to get GP1 at SELWG)
http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_3_6_0_18th_Century_Equipment,_Guns_&_Civilians.asp?startnum=9
Foundry Seven Year War Prussians as Jaeger personalities
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/seven_years_war/prussian/prussian_frei_korps_ncos_and_officers_sywp073/?sector_id=12
All these figures are compatible size wise
Nothing finished yet but will hopefully start a thread in a couple of weeks.

Offline GregX999

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Re: Chaos in the Colonies
« Reply #33 on: 02 October 2010, 12:26:33 AM »
have also started a Colonial Horror skirmish project...

Wow, that's a lot to checkout! ;D Thanks for the figure recommendations, some good stuff there.

Offline Skrapwelder

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Re: Chaos in the Colonies
« Reply #34 on: 02 October 2010, 01:25:22 AM »
Robert McCammon's Speaks the Nightbird might be of interest.

 

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