6mm Sengoku Jidai

[Osmoses]

Those ones pictured are, but they are command stands. My normal infantry units are 10cm frontage.

[6milPhil]

Those ones pictured are, but they are command stands. My normal infantry units are 10cm frontage.

That makes sense. 

[MGH]

Your collection, your paint jobs, your terrain, and your AARs are all amazing. Enjoy all of it.

[Osmoses]

Thanks very much

[Osmoses]

It's been a while, but had another go at a Tenka Fubu battle. This time the (fictional) batttle of Amanogawa, fought between an Oda army and the ikk?-ikki.

Report here:
https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com/2025/06/09/the-battle-of-amanogawa/

[Cat]

Nice looking battle!

[Cat]

Reading through some of your related blog posts, I am persuaded to completely drop the farm implements from my 28mm ikko-ikki forces. 

I had already been building them up with a greater proportion of regular spears and naginata than bamboo spears and farm tools.  The revolting peasants look just didn't quite seem right given the sheer size and duration of the movement.  Your explanation that it comes from Meiji period imagery was a helpful reference point, thanks!

[Osmoses]

No worries. It's unfortunate that figure manufacturers portray the ikk? as much less well equipped than they would have been and 'regular' forces much better equipped than they would have been. in reality, the two would be much closer in terms of appearance. But we have to work with what we have, which is why I've ended up using a lot of Perry figures due to them having more of those 'mid-range' figures even though I'm not a big fan of Perry. The Kensei 'wako' figures are useful too, though they are fiddly to assemble, and a different style to Perry.

[Khusru2]

The game was a real beauty to see. The scenic bases are great and inspirational.

[Cat]

It's unfortunate that figure manufacturers portray the ikk? as much less well equipped than they would have been and 'regular' forces much better equipped than they would have been. in reality, the two would be much closer in terms of appearance. But we have to work with what we have

You might want to check out the Old Glory ashigaru.  I recently scored a small batch of painted ones and quite like them.  Less 'uniform' looking than others.  Unpainted Perry for comparison.
 
Over here, they are the most economical figures by far.  Foreign shipping costs are exorbitant alas.  But they give a big bulk discount to 'Old Glory Army' members — $25 membership, 40% discounts.  Maths would need to be applied to calculate membership+figure cost+shipping to see if the final price per figure seems worthwhile; but likely works out reasonably well for a good sized order.

https://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=25mm+LM%26R%3A+Samurai
 

[Osmoses]

Yes, they look the part. Kingsford is the other manufacturer I have quite a few of. Still have loads to paint, but I might get some of the OG ones after.

[Cat]

Osmoses, related question — have you come across any evidence of Sohei fighting while mounted in the Sengoku as they did in earlier periods?
 
Adolphson's The Teeth and Claws of the Buddha is great for Heian and Kamakura imagery and analysis, but alas has scant mention of later times.

[Osmoses]

I'm probably the wrong person to ask. I don't think there were any s?hei in the Sengoku. Not as they're usually represented anyway. I think the classic s?hei image is an Edo period invention. Temple troops would look much the same as everyone else.

[Cat]

I don't think there were any s?hei in the Sengoku. Not as they're usually represented anyway. I think the classic s?hei image is an Edo period invention. Temple troops would look much the same as everyone else.

That certainly fits in with Adolphson's general thesis.  More broadly then, any evidence for temple/ikko mounted troops?

[Osmoses]

Not direct. I don't remember coming across anything so specific when it comes to ikk? battles. It's very hard to get much of a handle on what was going on militarily at a low level. But more broadly there's no reason why they couldn't have mounted troops. Being mounted is a function of wealth not social class. Of course, there would also be members outside the temples who may fight mounted. Plenty of mid-level Matsudaira retainers joined the Mikkawa ikk?-ikki for example.

Incidentally, I don't know if you have it already but Carol Tsang's "War and Faith" is a really good overview in English on the ikk?-ikki.