Living in Interesting Times

[grant]

Good to know. I am required to read up on quite a bit of that stuff @ work but have so far not considered how it applies to my hobby.

That really is interesting.

What country or region do those rules apply to?

[Hammers]

That really is interesting.

What country or region do those rules apply to?

The EU. I dont know if the UK needs to comply

[Belgian]

That really is interesting.

What country or region do those rules apply to?

Also dealing with the new regulation at work, we will be working with an external advisor as it's quite complex and with hefty fines thought I read 4% of annual turnover. Think the regulation is for the entire European Union. Apologies for the slight derailment of the thread.

On the matter of the forum issues, I fully understand and follow  the ruling of the moderators. Never experienced overmoderating and have always been pleased with the atmosphere on the forum because of their work. Thumbs up and keep up the good and hard work!

[Wachaza]

Just a general point and in no way adding or subtracting from this post's topic.

Under the new data protection rules - GDPR - enforceable from May of this year - the mods would have no choice but to comply with a request like this as under GDPR there is the "new" right to erasure (‘right to be forgotten’)

Sorry if this is a bit geeky\legalese but I'm heading this up where I work so need to know this stuff.   

Does that apply if you post under a pseudonym? Right to be forgotten is your actual name I believe.

[Hammers]

Does that apply if you post under a pseudonym? Right to be forgotten is your actual name I believe.

I am sure we will set up a commission to look into that. Hohum...

[Westfalia Chris]

The EU. I dont know if the UK needs to comply

Since the UK will be in the EU by May 25th, the Data Protection Directive's rulings will apply immediately and fully without requiring national law, although individual regulations may be issued by national legislative bodies in compliance with the minimum stipulations.

In Germany, though, there is legal debate whether postings are personal data (strictly speaking, only the associated IP, if so tracked, is). Therefore, a case might be reasonably made that one may request the deletion of personal data stored as part of the member account, whereas postings might not fall under Data Protection Law. The relevant EU DP directive ruling specifies personal data explicitly.

My line of work, too.

[FramFramson]

Living in interesting times indeed.

[Lowtardog]

The EU. I dont know if the UK needs to comply

It does and is a bleeding nightmare having to tackle it at my workplace too

[Orctrader]

The EU. I dont know if the UK needs to comply

Actually, it's not countries, it's citizens.  So EU citizens wherever they reside.  (How non-EU countries will be compelled to "obey" is unclear.  However, some of the training I've undertaken is actually on US sites where they explain that it "applies to US companies employing EU citizens."

With specific regard to UK, Government has already stated that GDPR compliance is mandatory after the country leaves the EU.

Personally, I don't think its as big a deal as many are making out.  Providing the changes to personal data regulations are understood compliance shouldn't be too difficult.  As always with this type of change huge numbers of consultants, trainers and other professional money-makers have jumped onto the bandwagon.   

Apologises again for any thread derailment.

[tin shed gamer]

  that doesn't make me look draconian at all.
I was aware (to a degree as I've not read more than a head line on the subject) of the impending legislation. In hindsight I should used the phrase 'in hindsight ' in that sentence.
My musing on this used an example of thirty days before removal and evaporation into the ether. Not actual instance on . The point I was trying  and failing to make ironically is about communication.
The individual in question had by his own hand made his membership untenable. So an unpleasant decision was made and acted upon. Because   this is an action that's virtually unheard of on the forum. People simply do not have enough experience of these situations to get things 100% right all of the time.
The almost  Orwellian perception of mods . Will never completely disappear.
If you have a code of conduct that is expected and re enforced (excuse the choice of words) by a body. Then its important that those people are seen to be doing, as it maintains confidence and continuity.
Although this is a privately owned site. Its a symbiotic relationship that requires confidence and trust from all involved. However this should not be  misrepresented as entitlement.
That's rather my point .You remove someone that's been so publicly visible,and vocal. an
Then acceded to his request without a public notification of his removal and request (at this moment in time not a legal requirement  although the point would still be valid) before its removal. Then you run the risk of looking like the aggressor .
I'm not suggesting you do not remove the threads and notifications. Simply communicate the intent and once an agreed time and date is reached then remove both the notifications and the threads .
Although the original musing was an example of thirty days it could all be  ,done in thirty minutes. Again just musings.
As the new legislation isn't mine to quote. I'd like to assume it has some provision has been made for antisocial conduct. Otherwise were in for a whirlwind of hit and run tolls running riot across all forms of social Media.
Mark.

[Shahbahraz]

It does and is a bleeding nightmare having to tackle it at my workplace too

Except the UK version includes exemptions for immigrants, so the GDPR only partially applies to them. On the whole, I am very much in favour, and worked on similar style legislative proposals in Australia, so good to see the EU actually implementing it.

From an individual's perspective it gives you an absolute right to view, and where necessary correct data held on you by all sorts of bodies. That's a very good thing in my book.

From a wargames perspective, it is a big catch all, with many clubs likely to fall foul of the regs, as they will simply be unaware. There are easy steps to take to correct this of course. As has been pointed out,there are plenty of consultants and companies looking to make a fortune, but essentially:
1. tell people what data you are collecting,
2. get their express permission to collect it,
3. let them see it/amend it, if they want to,
4. manage it securely, and
5. only use it for the purposes expressly delineated when the information was collected. 

[Dr. Zombie]

It does and is a bleeding nightmare having to tackle it at my workplace too

I am glad I am not alone in this. I am head of collections at a museum and pretty much all of my job is collecting various forms of personal data. I am having all kinds of fun with this legislation!

But in the end I think it will work out fine and it definately is not as dangerous as some people will have you believe. The massive fines are really meant for big coorporations like Microsoft, apple and facebook, so that they will at least feel a teeny tiny sting of the fine. No one is comming after hobby clubs or forums.

[nicknorthstar]

Just as an aside, the fines for non compliance are % of turn-over. As LAF has no income and it's all cost, that'll be interesting.

I'm just been flippant of course, we will en devour to do make sure everything is ticky-boo here.

[Mason]

But please keep that to yourself.....

[Skyven]

Just as an aside, the fines for non compliance are % of turn-over. As LAF has no income and it's all cost, that'll be interesting.

I would imagine North Star would be safe in any eventuality, they would probably go after the person/organisation which registered the domain name, i.e. Daniel at Wargames Illustrated ltd