Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Double update 3D printed 14th century spanish 15/9

[LazyStudent]

Really nice Lithuanians Ogrob!! The dark metal certainly suits them.

As for your Brittany warband, Wappen wiki has several different heraldries you could use. After all it's a warband, not always the Duke himself. [url]https://wappenwiki.org/index.php/Duchy_of_Brittany[url]

[Ogrob]

Thank you, very useful!

[LazyStudent]

Are the barded horses Frieforge with Perry heads?

[Ogrob]

Yes. The heads are pretty easy to fit, but the riders a little trickier. I cut down the saddles, bent the rider legs into place and then used plasticard to make a basic saddle.

[Ogrob]

Last weekend I travelled down to Lund for my biggest saga tournament yet, the SAGA World Cup. 48 players in 12 teams was a little bit bigger than my previous record of six

I was captain of the quite casual Team Sweden. The Lund players have more tournament experience, but were hosting. We just managed to assemble a team of four from Gothenburg and headed down with no ambitions. Three of us played almost completely new factions. I fielded my Polish that you have seen in this thread.

Over the course of the weekend we played one of the German teams, a Polish team and the Austrians, Hungarians and Portuguese.

I went 2-3 over the weekend, with wins against Spanish and Ordenstaat on the Sacred Ground scenario. This revolves around holding three pieces of terrain on the centre line, and the Polish are very capable of winning a punchup in the middle. I lost to Pagan People, again on Sacred Ground, and Saracens in Old Feud. In both of these games I've been able to identify mistakes in planning and execution that if fixed could have lead to a different game. I'm happy with these as learning opportunities.

I was also destroyed by Mongols in Tale of Challenges. They are absolutely terrifying in a scenario that does not require them to hold fixed positions. I had essentially no chance. The mongol player obliterated every opponent he faced over the weekend, so I suppose I can't be too unhappy, but I do think the faction needs another look in the next FAQ.


And a tiny bit of hobby today. I received some 3D printed figures by Medbury Miniatures, printed by Direforge in Spain. The minis are Medbury's Scottish Hobelars, and look very very nice. Sculpts are crisp and characterful. Perfect for mounted Warriors in Age of Chivalry. Prints are also nice and clean, but I did have one misprint that I feel the seller should have caught. Still, a minor issue.

3D printed spears are always terrible, so I spent some time replacing them with metal hafts, or just swapped for some plastic hands with maces and an axe from Victrix normans.


What do you think?

[Mikai]

Congratulations to your two wins! Sounds like a tournament with joy and lessons you have learnt 

The scotish hobelars are nice, looking forward to see them painted. I thought that Medbury is also doing them in metal or did you want them to be in resin? I also thought you would go for a spanish faction for your Age of Chivalry warband, so I was a bit surprised, might have missed some info bits though

[Ogrob]

Congratulations to your two wins! Sounds like a tournament with joy and lessons you have learnt 

The scotish hobelars are nice, looking forward to see them painted. I thought that Medbury is also doing them in metal or did you want them to be in resin? I also thought you would go for a spanish faction for your Age of Chivalry warband, so I was a bit surprised, might have missed some info bits though

Thank you!

On the resin: as an EU resident, I have to pay import VAT and handling fees on non-EU orders. I will try an order from Medbury at some point, but I probably want it to be around 100 pounds to minimize the impact of the handling fees on prize per miniature. Direforge, which I ordered from, seem to use a very nice resin with good detail. I even dropped a figure on the floor with no damage.

On the choice of figure, there are two things. One, I need quite a lot of light cavalry, especially for playing Castille. I want my figures to match decently in size and style with my Claymore figures and my other 3D prints. The Perry horses I have are honestly too big and look silly next to the Reconquer and Ezipion knights. There is nothing on these figures that scream Scottish, they could just as well be French, and therefor just as well be northern Spanish without Muslim influence. Hopefully Reconquer will release some Spanish light cavalry at some point soon though, so I can add some.

Second, the army is morphing more into a generic 14th century army with a bit of a Spanish theme. I have a lot of figures already that Castille can't legally use. I am perfectly happy using these figures for other factions as red and yellow is pretty common.

[Mikai]

On the resin: as an EU resident, I have to pay import VAT and handling fees on non-EU orders. I will try an order from Medbury at some point, but I probably want it to be around 100 pounds to minimize the impact of the handling fees on prize per miniature. Direforge, which I ordered from, seem to use a very nice resin with good detail. I even dropped a figure on the floor with no damage.

Yes, I forgot about the import from the UK, was only thinking of the material. I feel you as a fellow EU resident. Everytime someone suggests a new company here and I look it up I cry silently in agony when I see that the company is sitting again in the UK 



I will try to pay attention to what will happen with your 14th century Brigadas Internacionales 

[Koyote]

...And a tiny bit of hobby today. I received some 3D printed figures by Medbury Miniatures, printed by Direforge in Spain. The minis are Medbury's Scottish Hobelars, and look very very nice. Sculpts are crisp and characterful. Perfect for mounted Warriors in Age of Chivalry. Prints are also nice and clean, but I did have one misprint that I feel the seller should have caught. Still, a minor issue.

3D printed spears are always terrible, so I spent some time replacing them with metal hafts, or just swapped for some plastic hands with maces and an axe from Victrix normans.

I've been eyeing these minis myself for my planned AoCh Scottish schiltron warband. They won't be played in every game, but it's always good to have the option during deployment.

Last year I ordered metal Medbury Vendel minis to field as AoI Saxon HG. The sculpts and casting quality are excellent, but compared to Victrix, Footsore's older ranges, and Gripping Beast, the Medbury Vendels are puny, even for historicals. To me they look closer to 25mm scale than 28mm. They are not just shorter than these other lines, its that they look so skinny and have small heads. I suppose that they would scale well against GW's LotR model line, but against Victrix and others, Medbury's metals look like 12 year old boys.

You likely dodged a bullet by having them printed.

With regards to scale, how do your printed hobilars compare to mounted Victrix minis? If they scale well, do you know if the printer increased the size of the prints?

[Ogrob]

I've been eyeing these minis myself for my planned AoCh Scottish schiltron warband. They won't be played in every game, but it's always good to have the option during deployment.

Last year I ordered metal Medbury Vendel minis to field as AoI Saxon HG. The sculpts and casting quality are excellent, but compared to Victrix, Footsore's older ranges, and Gripping Beast, the Medbury Vendels are puny, even for historicals. To me they look closer to 25mm scale than 28mm. They are not just shorter than these other lines, its that they look so skinny and have small heads. I suppose that they would scale well against GW's LotR model line, but against Victrix and others, Medbury's metals look like 12 year old boys.

You likely dodged a bullet by having them printed.

With regards to scale, how do your printed hobilars compare to mounted Victrix minis? If they scale well, do you know if the printer increased the size of the prints?

I will snap some comparison photos as soon as I can, maybe tonight or tomorrow.

[Ogrob]

Ok, here we are with some size discussion. I have so far not asked any printers to rescale anything, but bought default sizes. The size of these Medbury scottish seems consistent with Medbury vendels I have from a different printer, so I had assumed that they are default scale.

Medbury next to a Reconquer knight printer by Studio Historia. The reconquer horse is probably the smallest I own. Strangely I have some Reconquer light cav printer by Stronghold Terrain, and they look to have a little bigger horses than this:


Medbury vs Claymore Castings french knight:


Medbury vs a spare Footsore welsh horse:


Medbury and a Victrix Late Roman:


Medbury and a Victrix knight. The new knights are on some monster horses compared to Victrix Viking and Ancient era pages.


And finally Medbury vs a Perry horse. The Perry horses are clearly taller than anything I use for Age of Chivalry, hence why I want to replace these:

[Koyote]

Thanks for this.

[Ogrob]

And back to the Baltics we go.

I finished this chonky boy, the Lithuanian Warlord by Black Knight miniatures. I gave him a tear drop shield, as I plan to use that shape for the Pagan People part of the army, and keep the lithuanian pavises for the Eastern Princes part of the force.





I also finished these Crusaders on foot by Stronghold Terrain (I guess Brother Vinni again, these are metal and sold under ST's name). I imagine these as some sort of Swedish adventurers or mercenaries. These use the John Blanche paints heavily, but not exclusively. Could be used as Western Knight mercenaries in SAGA for example.


What do you think?

[Atheling]

Nice work  . The Lithuanian Warlord's tactical rock will set him in good stead 

[Ogrob]

Nice work  . The Lithuanian Warlord's tactical rock will set him in good stead 

I do like a good tactical rock. There will be more in this project