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Author Topic: 28mm late war British & Germans Arnhem etc  (Read 177634 times)

Offline Ash

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #750 on: October 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM »
Regimental flash, arm of service strip and divisional sign on both sleeves on BD along with rank chevrons, if any.

Thanks for the info.
I now have eighteen to do...

Those badges really pop on those uniforms.  :o

Ta very much.

I never tire of catching up with this thread, always superb work in here. 

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #751 on: October 31, 2023, 11:37:10 PM »
Well, that is more nicely painted stuff!  Well done!
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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #752 on: November 04, 2023, 12:55:49 PM »
Cheers Jim.

Added the badges to the right arms of the ones in BD.
Re did the rifles and added brass buckles to the whole lot.





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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #753 on: November 04, 2023, 08:53:32 PM »
Looking Great!
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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #754 on: November 04, 2023, 08:57:23 PM »
Fabulous! :-*
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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #755 on: November 05, 2023, 01:16:19 AM »
Before this ends up covered in mud, I want to add some vehicle markings.
Not sure whether this would be part of a 4th Batt KOSB anti tank platoon ( if there was one) or attached from another unit (RA?).




6 Pounder so far...

This will end up with some snow.
For unit markings on battle dress, should that be on both shoulders?





Fabulous stuff!  :-*

4 KOSB definitely had the standard AT Platoon of six 6pdrs.  Divisional AT Regts RA also had the odd 6pdr Troop (a three-way split in each battery of 6pdr, 17pdr and M10 3-inch - a Troop of four of each was fairly common).  However, the 6pdrs steadily started disappearing from the AT Regts RA throughout 1944, being replaced by towed 17pdr and then Valentine SP 17pdr.  However, I've nothing specific for 52 Div.  Safest bet is to mark them as 4 KOSB.
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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #756 on: November 07, 2023, 09:50:46 AM »
Cheers chaps, always much appreciated.


Fabulous stuff!  :-*

4 KOSB definitely had the standard AT Platoon of six 6pdrs.  Divisional AT Regts RA also had the odd 6pdr Troop (a three-way split in each battery of 6pdr, 17pdr and M10 3-inch - a Troop of four of each was fairly common).  However, the 6pdrs steadily started disappearing from the AT Regts RA throughout 1944, being replaced by towed 17pdr and then Valentine SP 17pdr.  However, I've nothing specific for 52 Div.  Safest bet is to mark them as 4 KOSB.

Bloody marvelous, thank you very much.






May need to go back and do some touch up to the dodgy freehand...

I did find these which may be of some use:

http://www.kerynne.com/games/BritishInfantryBttnTOE.html

http://www.wdbsa.nl/division_markings.htm

...and whilst the 'snow paste' was out, added some to these blokes.










Some of the snow added to the gun base went 'par for the course green', so will need to be removed and an application of harsh language applied prior to taking any pics...


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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #757 on: November 07, 2023, 12:37:31 PM »
Fabulous stuff!  :-*

4 KOSB definitely had the standard AT Platoon of six 6pdrs.  Divisional AT Regts RA also had the odd 6pdr Troop (a three-way split in each battery of 6pdr, 17pdr and M10 3-inch - a Troop of four of each was fairly common).  However, the 6pdrs steadily started disappearing from the AT Regts RA throughout 1944, being replaced by towed 17pdr and then Valentine SP 17pdr.  However, I've nothing specific for 52 Div.  Safest bet is to mark them as 4 KOSB.

I don't suppose you have equivalent data for the Cameronians?
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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #758 on: November 07, 2023, 04:22:36 PM »
Lovely markings!  And that was very quick work! :)

Re the Cameronians: Every infantry battalion in NW Europe had the standard AT Platoon of 6x 6pdrs, so the 6th & 7th Cameronians in 52 (L) Div would have had the same as 4 KOSB. 

The 6pdr tractor vehicle was USUALLY the Loyd Carrier (lovely example shown above), but could also be the Windsor Carrier (stretched Universal Carrier) or the T16 Carrier (stretched Universal Carrier with track-brake steering).  Unless you have photographic evidence, it's almost impossible to determine which unit had which.  There were two tractors assigned to each gun detachment (the second tractor towed an ammo trailer).

Something I forgot to mention is that 5 KOSB of 52 (L) Div famously knocked out a pair of Tigers in one action with their 6pdrs. :)

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #759 on: November 07, 2023, 06:51:12 PM »
Lovely markings!  And that was very quick work! :)

Thanks, it's a very nice little cast and pretty much painted itself.
I'm still fighting with the 'snow effects' on the gun base and hope I haven't just f'd the whole thing up.
Did just cross my mind that I should have made up some more 'dead grass' looking tufts, as I ended up using up the last of those I'd made for the Arnhem figures, and they are probably too summery green...

Something I forgot to mention is that 5 KOSB of 52 (L) Div famously knocked out a pair of Tigers in one action with their 6pdrs. :)

Hadn't come across that before, interesting info.
Just did a google search for '5th KOSB Tiger tank' and found this :

http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-battle-of-forrest-damp.html

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #760 on: November 07, 2023, 07:33:56 PM »
Snow terrain looks fine. Green tufts? New growth of spring. I had similar issues with my 1940 Norwegians and that was my justification.

Cracking good read that linked article. Cheers!

Offline Shahbahraz

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #761 on: November 07, 2023, 07:35:34 PM »
Cracking good read, but seems a bit unfair DCM vs MC? When they basically did the same thing?

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #762 on: November 07, 2023, 07:45:58 PM »
They weren't, the OR's equivalent was the MM. British army, indeed most Commonwealth armies have always been parsimonious in handing out gongs.

If it was the tin tanks he would have got the MoH, Silver Star, a couple of Boy Scout badges and been made a Star Fleet commander.

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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #763 on: November 07, 2023, 09:33:54 PM »
Great painting on the figs and vehicles.

I did find these which may be of some use:

http://www.kerynne.com/games/BritishInfantryBttnTOE.html


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Re: 28mm late war British & Germans
« Reply #764 on: November 08, 2023, 01:46:10 AM »
They weren't, the OR's equivalent was the MM. British army, indeed most Commonwealth armies have always been parsimonious in handing out gongs.

If it was the tin tanks he would have got the MoH, Silver Star, a couple of Boy Scout badges and been made a Star Fleet commander.

That was my point. If the officer got an MC, then the private who did the same should have got an MM, instead he got a DCM.

 

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