Agnadello 1509

[olicana]

I've also been wary of the number of crossbows in that list.

Although I don't have evidence to support it, other than the inventories I've seen (in previous threads here and elsewhere) quoted for arquebus in Venice by this time, I would tend towards arquebus with the pike and not that many (1:7 max) at that. This was the Venetian's big experiment at 'modern pike warfare' using 'citizen pikemen' (rather than Swiss / German mercenaries) so I'm guessing they followed the Swiss / Landsknecht model of 1:10 shot to pike. After it failed, thinking Italian pikemen unlucky (Oman), they went back to hiring mercenaries to fulfil that role.

The French (their 3000 Gascons at Agnadello), on the other hand, definitely fielded crossbows and didn't abandon it until much later (possibly as late as 1525).

[Malatesta]

Argh!  Neither are for sale on those links. Not even the kindle version. The search goes on....

I just downloaded the Agnadello magazine for Kindle a few minutes ago.

[Condottiere]

I just downloaded the Agnadello magazine for Kindle a few minutes ago.

Amazon.com Kindle downloads aren't available for Amazon.uk users.

https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/9605/why-can-i-download-kindle-books-from-amazon-com-but-not-from-amazon-co-uk

[Ignatieff]

I got it too now, off another platform (Kobo books). There seem to be quite a few willing to sell it.

[olicana]

I came across this the other day, quite a neat little You Tube piece about the League of Cambrai, the strategic moves leading up to the battle, and the battle itself; all in 8 minutes.

[Friends of General Haig]

Great video and interesting channel.  Just right for an Italian Wars newb like me 

[Leman]

That proved very interesting. good to se34 that there are more battles in that series.

[Condottiere]

With the aid of a dictionary, will be reading Florence Alazard's La bataille oubliée. Agnadel, 1509 : Louis XII contre les Vénitiens...

Antoine Rivault's review.

NB: This work covers the events prior and surrounding the campaign, the campaign and the consequences. According to some reviews, the main events of the battle are covered, but it's not a detailed blow by blow account, for those interested in such, Marco Meschini's La battaglia di Agnadello : Ghiaradadda, 14 maggio 1509 is suggested, but it's OOP and I can't find it either on Abebooks or Biblio - anyone know of a digital version?  Massimo Predonzani's two articles will have to do ATM, until Helion and Company publishes further titles on the Italian Wars - if ever.

[bergschotten]

I came across this the other day, quite a neat little You Tube piece about the League of Cambrai, the strategic moves leading up to the battle, and the battle itself; all in 8 minutes.

Watched these this morning before work and they were well presented clear and very imformative-top link.  Cheers Stephen

[Condottiere]

From Massimo Predonzani's blog:

I veneziani di Agnadello di Francesco Sbarile



Le croci rosse dei veneziani alla battaglia di Agnadello e i segni di riconoscimento degli eserciti italiani nel XVI° secolo.

La fanteria veneta del primo ‘500 nei dipinti del Carpaccio

[Leman]

They do look something special and will provide some inspiration for my Venetian army.

[Ignatieff]

Stunning figures! 

[Condottiere]

Massimo Predonzani's The Italian Wars Volume 2: Agnadello 1509, Ravenna 1512, Marignano 1515 up for pre-order.

[Leman]

Many thanks for the information. I have just put in my pre-order on the Amazon UK site.

[Condottiere]

Regarding the defense of Padua after Agnadello, from Simon Pepper's The face of the siege: Fortification, tactics and strategy in the early Italian Wars, in Italy and the European Powers: The Impact of War, 1500-1530