Painting Perry Miniatures Men at Arms- Step by Steps I, II & III

[Atheling]

Amy Painter bought up the range and rebottled it when GW switched suppliers, so that was very definitely the case.

Of course AP have since switched supplier too so it isn't true any more.

So...... switched supplier as it's cheaper from the newer supplier or switched supplier because they thought it was better? I know well, which answer I would prefer to hear.

[Ogrob]

I can't compare to any GW product as I've not used GW paints in a decade or more, but I will say that Army Painter have really stepped up their quality with their releases these last few years. The Fantatic Warpaints and the Speedpaints 2.0 are very very good.

[Atheling]

I can't compare to any GW product as I've not used GW paints in a decade or more, but I will say that Army Painter have really stepped up their quality with their releases these last few years. The Fantatic Warpaints and the Speedpaints 2.0 are very very good.

I'm not a fan of AP Speedpaints ands contrast paints in general as they just d not suite the way I paint. See below:


I do use AP Tones, but quite rarely, which is why I'm now trying to penetrate the veil of GW vs AP (Nuln Oil vs Dark Tone).

[TWD]

So...... switched supplier as it's cheaper from the newer supplier or switched supplier because they thought it was better? I know well, which answer I would prefer to hear.

Marketing speak: The latter
Reality: The former

You know how this stuff works 

[Atheling]

Marketing speak: The latter
Reality: The former

You know how this stuff works 

Yep, that's what I feared. I lent a Norman army out to someone who didn't look after it, mostly painted with foundry triads when they were a new thing, so yeah, the army is an old treasure; only to have it knocked about etc, paint chipped and spears and shields missing. So why not repair with Foundry Paints? Well, the old ones are mostly dried out (amazing how those paint top lids all die at once!) and the new Foundry paints are just rubbish compared to the older paints. Kind of oily and have to be applied almost impasto to get any decent coverage. More like thin milk originally. So yeah, gutted!

[valleyboy]

its interesting to hear about all these issues with various washes and the changes in consistency. I found the change in army painter tones to be a real pain and problem. A greyish stain was often the result
I've started to experiment using contrast paints as washes ( I don't use them as paints as I undercoat in black)
Wyldwood and black templar seem to work well when diluted with a few blobs of acrylic medium and a decent amount of water

Anyone else using these to wash figures?

[Atheling]

its interesting to hear about all these issues with various washes and the changes in consistency. I found the change in army painter tones to be a real pain and problem. A greyish stain was often the result
I've started to experiment using contrast paints as washes ( I don't use them as paints as I undercoat in black)
Wyldwood and black templar seem to work well when diluted with a few blobs of acrylic medium and a decent amount of water

Anyone else using these to wash figures?

Thankfully I rarely use washes, except on plate armours, and if I'm going to use a wash I'll mix it up myself.