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Author Topic: SI’s Dorking 1875: UD 14/3 Bavarian Chevaleuger conversions WIP  (Read 48947 times)

Online Silent Invader

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Dorking 1875 is a Project Log (Plog) for my ‘Before & After Dorking’ project. The influence is Victorian Military Fiction (not Victorian Science Fiction) with Chesney’s novella to the fore. As best I can, I want the project to be historically viable, using units, uniforms and equipment from the time.  One aspiration is to develop an alternative narrative for the invasion, which will develop and be played out as a series of campaign games.

FYI, completed units etc are carried over to the ‘Before & After Dorking’ blog:

https://badorking.blogspot.com/



P.1 Intro re background and terrain
P.2 Thoughts on using Home Service Helmet in 1875
P.4-5 Beginnings of more houses
P.6 Civilians
P.7-8 Bavarian Jägers
P.8-9 First game using Rebels & Patriots
P.11 35th (Royal Sussex) Regiment
P.12 Bavarian 12th Infantry Regiment
P.14 Discussion of project locations
P.14 Alternative Essex landings & brickyard research
P.15 Essex Yeomanry plus recap of other finished figures
P.17 Terrain test with all units to date
P.19 Bavarian Cuirassiers WIP
P.20 Bavarian Cuirassiers finished & armies so far
P.20 WIP Bavarian Command & Tower Hamlets Rifle Volunteers
P.21 Second game using NMTBH
P.22 Bavarian Artillery (WIP)
P.23 Bavarian Command and Artillery painted (see also p.26)
P.24 Limber WIP
P.24 AAR = The Slaughterhouse 3 (28 images) ; part 1
P.25 AAR = The Slaughterhouse 3 (17 more images) ; part 2
P.25 AAR = The Slaughterhouse 3 (1 more image) ; Epilogue
P.26 Bavarian artillery with painting errors corrected
P.27 Bavarian limber WIP
P.27 Bavarian Field Engineers Wip
P.28 Bavarian OOB
P.28 On the painting table: Bavarian limber, engineers and infantry
P.28 Thoughts on machine guns
P.28 Third attempt at getting the Bavarian artillery crew right
P.29 Introducing the blog
P.29 Feldl MG progress
P.30 Blog progress
P.30 link to discussion on Bavarian medic, supply, railway troops
P.30 Artillery, Engineer & Infantry units finished
P.31 Some history of the 5th (Plaistow) Essex RV
P.32 Bavarian Chevaleuger conversions WIP


I regularly say that I won’t be starting new projects and then I do  ::). But this one isn’t entirely new as it will (mostly) redeploy terrain from my Gothic Horror and ECW projects. Also, for the bigger games the heavy lifting will be shared with others.

Btw, I pondered where to place this project as it’s not Victorian Science Fiction but Victorian Military Fiction (steam tanks etc aren’t my thing  :o). But it’s here as here is where most of the British Home Service troops seem to hang out.  ;)

So, it’s 1875 and the German Invaders have landed near Worthing, advancing north through Horsham to what could be a decisive battle near Dorking. Meanwhile there’s been a feint landing at Harwich and an attempt will be made to seize the Woolwich Arsenal. So far, so “Reminisces of a Volunteer”.  8)

This side project follows a separate landing, by a Bavarian Corps, on the north of bank of the Thames. The plan being to seize intact the London docks while taking out the Artillery ranges at Shoeburyness and the fort at Tilbury. Thus a role for my Whitechapel and rural Essex terrain.

The terrain has threads of its own, but here are a few tasters, some unpainted:















My starting forces comprise:

GERMAN
The Bavarian infantry by Eagles of Empire, plus a Krupp gun from Outpost.

BRITISH
The plastic Perry Zulu British Line Infantry in Home Service Helmets, various armed civilians for a resistance, and I’m having a go at creating Rifle Volunteers by combining/converting plastic Perry Sudan British and Nappy British, plus a 3 pounder manned by Artillery Volunteers.

There is much to do!

More to follow soon.

Rules will be Rebels and Patriots, with the starting rosters already drawn up.
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Offline Spinal Tap

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2021, 11:23:15 AM »
A great start. I will be watching this with much interest.

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2021, 11:41:12 AM »
Likewise will follow this closely.

I have Guards, Line and Scots in Slade Wallace eqt converted for Home Service and had thought to use the Perry Intervention Force Canadian Militia as Volunteers.

Stunning terrain!! :o



Online Silent Invader

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2021, 12:00:04 PM »
Thanks folks

... had thought to use the Perry Intervention Force Canadian Militia as Volunteers.

Yes, that is a great idea.The real kicker for me though is that to some extent my East London and Essex terrain are connected to my family roots so I want to do as good a job as possible - recognising that there is very limited information - in creating specific Volunteer Units from the areas to which I have a family connection.

Thus the 7th Tower Hamlets etc
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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2021, 12:31:55 PM »
You certainly aren't put off by a challenge, are you? I'm fascinated to see where you take this. Excellent start though.

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2021, 12:59:02 PM »
Interesting alternate history stuff, nice setup.

Good work on your Volunteer conversions.

Ironclad Miniatures do wonderful British infantry in home service helmets and Grenadier Guards in mighty bearskin caps for this period and some cool looking Prussian infantry.

I’d put this in the Age of Big Battalions but clearly state alternate history in the topics.

Carry on!
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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2021, 01:24:20 PM »
Another fascinating idea for a project  8)

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 01:52:12 PM »
Fascinating idea, will follow with great interest.


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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2021, 02:17:41 PM »
I like it...

Have considered something similar, but set in the year 1901.  Have you heard of the novel '1901' by Robert Conroy.  It is an alternate history novel, but as wiki states:

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The plot is based on an actual diplomatic crisis that nearly brought the United States and the German Empire into war during the early 20th century. Conroy was inspired by the publication of the actual German invasion plans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1901_(novel)
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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2021, 03:13:14 PM »
You were very easy to persuade  ;D

I’ve already got two, 24 man battalions of regular Brits and some terrain started but I’ll do my own thread towards the end of the month.

I’ll be using Perry’s BIF mainly, without any conversion work as I don’t mind some historical inaccuracies  :)
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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2021, 03:50:20 PM »
Going to follow this with interest!
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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2021, 04:46:47 PM »
Madman.

:D

Agreed that it’s not really VSF, more alternative history. Don’t get suckered into all that steam tank nonsense ;)

lol

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2021, 09:16:09 PM »
Thanks all

Agreed that it’s not really VSF, more alternative history. Don’t get suckered into all that steam tank nonsense ;)

Yes, after reflection I also concur with Captain Darling.

Mods: can you please move this to Big Battalions please

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2021, 09:19:05 PM »
Have considered something similar, but set in the year 1901.  Have you heard of the novel '1901' by Robert Conroy.  It is an alternate history novel, but as wiki states:

I hadn’t heard of it but have now read the Wiki entry. In some ways the alternate history reminded me of the non sci-fi bits of The Man In The High Castle. Very interesting.

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Re: German Invasion 1875: SI’s new project
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2021, 10:03:57 PM »
Interesting plan. Looking forward to seeing where this goes. You can tell it doesn't belong in VSF. If it did the title would be 'Prussian Invasion 1875.'  ;)






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