Looking at Dark Age Welsh!

[Tim Haslam]

Thinking about figures in 28mm.
It’s been many years since I’ve collected ancient and medieval figures, and a lot has changed. Particularly plastic production.

I’m wondering if Wargames Atlantic Irish and Victrix Saxons could be kit bashed into a Welsh force, around 8th Century, maybe earlier?
Or Gripping Beast.

Maybe there is a Welsh range in metal I’m not aware of?

[Tim Haslam]

Footsore!
I used to own some of these figures under a different name.
Love them.
Would the early Saxon models work?

[Atheling]

You almost certainly aware of this Tim  but it's probably worth repeating in the event anyone else has a similar idea.....

It depends on what Century you're looking to do.

to be honest, I don't think that there would be much of a difference between the average Welsh warrior in the 10th and 11th Centuries and their Anglo Saxon/Danish counterparts, especially near the borders of both countries.

If you're looking for earlier, "Arthurian" Welsh then personally I would look no further than Gripping Beast and use either miniatures from their Arthurian range  for a Civitatus type army:

https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/Age_of_Arthur--category--63.html

Or for a more "rural" look from their British & Welsh Kingdoms range:

[Ragnar]

Don't go kitbashing, there are a couple of ranges around.

Have a look at Gripping Beast and West Wind

I could have sworn there was more than that but my brain is struggling to remember them.

I asked footsore a few months ago about a Welsh range, they indicated it would be early 2021 (which has obviously now passed)

[Tim Haslam]

Thanks guys, yes I’m just having a brain fart this morning.
Thinking now I’m getting back into it, I need a Dark Age force.
It’s WAB and the Shieldwall supplement I’m looking at, so I’m in the dark ages of gaming!
Welsh is something I’ve never used before.

Not sure about which century?
Looking at GB plastics, I could probably just use all those for 9th and 10th century?
Thegns, infantry and bowmen. Three boxes almost perfect?

I’ll have a look at any metals they may do?
I’m very keen on the new plastics, they are cheap and easy to convert.

I’m just looking for ideas too, really. Something to wet the artistic juices.

[Atheling]

Thanks guys, yes I’m just having a brain fart this morning.
Thinking now I’m getting back into it, I need a Dark Age force.
It’s WAB and the Shieldwall supplement I’m looking at, so I’m in the dark ages of gaming!
Welsh is something I’ve never used before.

Not sure about which century?
Looking at GB plastics, I could probably just use all those for 9th and 10th century?
Thegns, infantry and bowmen. Three boxes almost perfect?

I’ll have a look at any metals they may do?
I’m very keen on the new plastics, they are cheap and easy to convert.

I’m just looking for ideas too, really. Something to wet the artistic juices.

I'm not very familiar with the BG plastics Tim so i will defer to other who are.

[Tim Haslam]

Oh, and I suppose watching The Last Kingdom again during lockdown hasn’t helped!
Lol

[Atheling]

Oh, and I suppose watching The Last Kingdom again during lockdown hasn’t helped!
Lol

I'm not so sure, I seem to remember the "Welsh" having shields with bloomin' great bog holes in the middle  Had be howling with laughter. Best moment of the series 

[Duncan McDane]

I believe Black Tree design did some very nice ones but they seem to have disappeared from their site.
Anyway, ordering from them is like pulling the slotmachine, so second hand might be an option.

[SJWi]

I am pretty sure there is a company called The Miniature Company ( previously the Miniature Design Company) who produce a range of Welsh. Not sure if they are Dark Age or early Medieval. However I can’t find their website which appears to have disappeared.

[redrevuk]

If you're using WAB (and what great supplements Age of Arthur and Shieldwall are!) the GB Welsh were designed specifically with those supplements in mind. I was part of the After Rome Yahoo group back in the day, and we had a long discussion with Soapy, the designer, about how to differentiate different troop types, and what the differences between Welsh and Saxons might be. Good times....

[Atheling]

After Rome Yahoo group

Forgot all about that Yahoo Group. Prof Guy Halsall's group if my memory is up to scratch?

[Tim Haslam]

The Miniature Company, I remember, nice Indian Range, very similar to Vendel.
It’s not working for me either?

[SJWi]

Tim, yes I think their Indian range is one of their largest and most complete. I have almost been tempted to start such an army for TTS but unless I can find a link will be frustrated.

[Tim Haslam]

I was only talking via email to them a few weeks ago.
I was asking when the full Indian range would be available again.
Currently the chariots and elephants are not available.

Hope everything is ok?