SI's Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: 30/9 more WIP units plus standing stones

[Captain Blood]

Steve, the Printable Scenery range, of which I think your house is a part, includes a full range of both high and low wall sections, gates and returns, in the same stonework. If CNC Universe don’t carry / print those particular items from within the Printable Scenery range, there are plenty of other print houses that do 

[Silent Invader]

Steve, the Printable Scenery range, of which I think your house is a part, includes a full range of both high and low wall sections, gates and returns, in the same stonework. If CNC Universe don’t carry / print those particular items from within the Printable Scenery range, there are plenty of other print houses that do 

Thank you! I shall seek them out :-)

[Silent Invader]

And seek them out I did, thank you Captain Blood!

I have ordered 8 of 40mm tall by 160mm long wall sections, with the same stone pattern as the building. I'll probably raise these walls by another 10mm. I need to make a suitably impressive gate arch.



The board has been trimmed to shape and the foam cores glued into position, using PVA with cocktail sticks to pin everything together:







The courtyard will have a couple of thatched lean-to stables plus lots of logs stacked against various walls, on which minis will be able to stand to shoot over. The thatch will match the cottages in the village, so will be made from milliput.

Once the walls and the base section of the house are glued into position, I shall start nibbling away at the foam to insert a cork rock face beneath the walls.

[carlos marighela]

Whars tha hosses gon tay sleep?

Even the most tight fisted Scottish laird is going to need a garage for his 17thC Beamer.

[Silent Invader]

Whars tha hosses gon tay sleep?

The lean-to stables will be placeholders for stables etc. I tried a lay out with a stone barn within the perimeter wall but it detracted from the house and reduced the playable area of the courtyard. In the end, I went for a representational compromise.

[carlos marighela]

Cool! It's going to be a very impressive centrepiece when finished.

[Captain Blood]

That’s going to be an imposing pile 

[Silent Invader]

To garret or not to garret?  Or perhaps more correctly, to dormer or not to dormer, of which more in a mo.

Between painting minis and waiting for perimeter walls I've been tweaking the tower house.

As I don't need it to open, the door has been glued in place (I wrapped the edges with paper strips to fill the gaps against the frame).





Though I'm fixing the door into position, I will have a playable interior.



I've also added an imposing fireplace to the upstairs accommodation. The resin cast came from Germany a long time ago (pre Brexit!) but I don't recall who made it. Obvs this additional fireplace sits above the one on the ground floor, sharing the same chimney.





A little bit of GS is required to tidy up the fixed door and the new fireplace.

The tower house has quite a grand chimney plus flank windows suggestive of renovations. For the purpose of my project, I'm imagining that the house was originally constructed in the 1550s before modest renovations in the 1650s to create a more comfortable home.

As part of the renos, I'm contemplating adding a garret, by affixing a couple of simple dormers to the roof. These have been borrowed from my unfinished English Manor House, which is one of many presently neglected projects.









A flank photo showing renos including bigger windows, fancy chimney and garret dormer:



I can't find many images of tower houses with dormers that rise up from within the roof area. There are many atop the brick wall. The dormers that do exist tend to have flat sloping roofs rather than angled, though Castle Stalker does have angled. Many of the properties with dormers are referred to as having been renovated in the 17thC. Here's an example of the sloping dormer...



So my conundrum is whether or not to go with dormers and if so, with the angled roofs that I have mocked up. Btw an advantage of the angled roofs is that the difference in tiling is less noticeable.

Any thoughts? Thanks 

[AKULA]

Certainly not my specialist subject but the dormers on Craigcaffie look like much more recent additions... probably post the removal of the window tax in 1851...

unless this photo was taken before then... 







More interesting photos & floorplans on the following link

https://www.trove.scot/place/60749

[Silent Invader]

Ah thanks. I have googled hundreds of images and didn't find that one. 

There are a lot of examples that Victorian photos evidence as having been added in the 19thC or 20thC. Thst said, many of the garret windows are clearly original, most certainly the ones that rise out of the wall (rather than being embedded into the roof).

Castle Stalkers appear to be original but I can't seem to confirm it.





It has to be said that there's an element of 'movie' about my project, for example the troops aren't all in uniform grey. So I am prepared to compromise.

I do quite like the look with dormer.

[AKULA]

I do quite like the look with dormer.

Which to be fair is all that counts - go for it mate 

[Malamute]

That's a terrific looking building. Its going to look splendid.

[Paul Richardson]

Agreed, it's a terrific looking building. For what it's worth, i think the dormers / garrets look too modern and I wouldn't go with them.

[carlos marighela]

Inclined to agree. Dormers do smack of much later renovations. Claypotts is said to be one of the better preserved examples of a 16th C Scots baronial style structure and whist it has windows set into the gable ends has only one 'dormer type window' which is pretty obviously a later edition. Similarly aged buildings like Broughty Castle lack dormer windows completely.

Eilean Donan, a fairly iconic Higland pile and a few pegs up the rung from your building, lacks dormers either on the main tower or the secondary buildings. That was renovated in the early/mid 20th C so I suspect more fidelity was applied in the renovations/rebuild.

If you were to add them, I'd suggest a symmetrical arrangement, two on one side or both rather than one at each end on both sides.

[dadlamassu]

Ah thanks. I have googled hundreds of images and didn't find that one. 

There are a lot of examples that Victorian photos evidence as having been added in the 19thC or 20thC. Thst said, many of the garret windows are clearly original, most certainly the ones that rise out of the wall (rather than being embedded into the roof).

Castle Stalkers appear to be original but I can't seem to confirm it.
It has to be said that there's an element of 'movie' about my project, for example the troops aren't all in uniform grey. So I am prepared to compromise.

I do quite like the look with dormer.

If my memory serves me well - the "dormers" on Castle Stalker are the doors that access the rampart.