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Author Topic: Ivanhoe in Bretonia  (Read 1339 times)

Offline Koppi

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Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« on: August 14, 2022, 09:11:42 AM »
Today some words about an old film; and some pictures of Bretonnian knights.
English translation at the end of the german text.

https://thrifles.blogspot.com/2022/08/ivanhoe-in-bretonia.html






Offline von der Tann

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2022, 02:17:57 PM »
Finally someone who loves those old movies!

Glückwunsch zum Geschmack und den Minis. :)
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Offline Maniac

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2022, 01:50:01 AM »
Wie schon!  Ich mag diese filme auch.

Meine sohne und ich hatten alte Ritter filme gern.  Diese filme, Knights of the Round Table, und Prince Valient (er liebt Prince Valiant, wir lessen es oft) war sehr gut.  Keine moderne filme sind wie gut
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Offline von der Tann

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2022, 04:15:18 AM »
Wie schon!  Ich mag diese filme auch.

Meine sohne und ich hatten alte Ritter filme gern.  Diese filme, Knights of the Round Table, und Prince Valient (er liebt Prince Valiant, wir lessen es oft) war sehr gut.  Keine moderne filme sind wie gut

I agree! Prince Valiant is awsome. I recently purchased a series of books with all the comic book strips starting from 1937. But I also enjoy the movie with Robert Wagner. It is the only movie that I can remember where shields actually get battle damage (although unintentionally if I remember correctly).

Offline Golgotha

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2022, 11:54:08 AM »
Always good to see Bretonnians especially ones inspired by the likes of classic Ivanhoe movie.

The Prince Valiant cartoon series was good and re-watching it now some good ideas for scenarios. One of the GW knights errant minis might make a good Valiant.

It is however distressing to see how much old GW Bretonnians now cost on the likes of ebay.

There are however good proxies available on the likes of Etsy for a fraction of the cost and likely even better looking see for example: https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1238528694/breton-knight-errants-unit-7-miniatures?gpla=1&gao=1&

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVwpi8WebE&list=PLgkKj2n1LjA_iQFGmUKMx3WQPsDw1GZ6-&index=2&ab_channel=ComicsKingdom

For an Ivanhoe game you would also want to play a tournament of jousting for which GW did a rule supplement in white dwarf called Full Tilt.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Fmd8rYxZE&t=1s&ab_channel=Eric%27sHobbyWorkshop

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBWupfAz56A&t=5s&ab_channel=Eric%27sHobbyWorkshop
 

« Last Edit: August 15, 2022, 12:05:39 PM by Golgotha »

Offline Maniac

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2022, 01:55:09 PM »
Steel and Steed is a rules set specifically for tournaments (grand melee, archery, jousting, etc).

https://godseyegames.com/2019/04/29/steel-steed-preview/
or
https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14007

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I agree! Prince Valiant is awsome. I recently purchased a series of books with all the comic book strips starting from 1937. But I also enjoy the movie with Robert Wagner. It is the only movie that I can remember where shields actually get battle damage (although unintentionally if I remember correctly).

The strips are lovely, I've read up through book 8 of the collected series with my son so far. 

Speaking of the shields, when I was a kid, stationed in Germany in the 80s, we went to see a reenactment in Bavaria.  There was a full military camp outside the castle, huge spectator stands, and full tilt jousting.  The evil black knight kept a flail hidden under his saddle and would bash his foes with it while the reeve wasn't looking.  In the end the good Bavarian knight came riding in and they unhorsed each other.  During the ensuing melee they beat on the metal shields (with axes) so hard they went from convex to concave.  Naturally we cheered the Black Knight just to be different (got some funny looks that day, let me tell you :) )

In the end the Black Knight triumphed, took the crown, kicked the reeve over and made his escape.  My son now has the wood shield my parents bought me that day, complete with all the scars from playing knights with it.

« Last Edit: August 15, 2022, 01:56:45 PM by Maniac »

Offline Golgotha

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2022, 02:34:51 PM »
Steel and Steed rules look interesting - though expensive and evidently there is also a card deck. Said rules do also seem overly complex. There is little online about these rules but good review and how to play here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTaTvilMf3o&ab_channel=TheAcceptableCasualties

There was also the 1954 Prince Valiant movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlRLxcO6M10&ab_channel=TrailerTrackerEnglish
« Last Edit: August 15, 2022, 02:47:56 PM by Golgotha »

Offline bluechi

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Re: Ivanhoe in Bretonia
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2022, 11:06:22 AM »
« Last Edit: August 17, 2022, 11:09:03 AM by bluechi »

 

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