Ahsoka Season 1 (spoilers likely)

[Aethelwulf]

It has certainly lived up to my expectations.

[Lost Egg]

Though I enjoyed it and liked the look and feel of the show I was a bit disappointed by the writing.

Thrawn wasn't banished, he, his ship and Ezra were taken to some unknown place by the purrgils...so how could there be a map? Even if there was a map why would it be in some ancient Night Sister temple when this takes place only a few years after he went missing? It felt to me like they wanted to shoe-horn in a mcguffin.

Also, there was never any mention of Sabine's ability to use the force so why was she trained by Asohka? This felt like an excuse to bring in some of the Rebels.

Both those points felt plot (or fan service) driven rather than character driven; I found them jarring so I hope they get ironed out as the story unfolds or at least no other jarring narrative elements occurred.

[AKULA]

Thrawn wasn't banished, he, his ship and Ezra were taken to some unknown place by the purrgils...so how could there be a map?

I'm working on the basis that the Imperial Remnant know roughly where Thrawn ended up...there must be some form of communication as we've already seen his Number 2 (Captain Pellaeon) communicating with Remnant Warlords in The Mandalorian.

How could there be a map? Even if there was a map why would it be in some ancient Night Sister temple when this takes place only a few years after he went missing?

The map isn't to where Thrawn is...rather it's an ancient map of a hyperspace route ...ie "the Pathway to Peridea" from the Star Wars Galaxy to the Galaxy where Thrawn is.

Episode 2 mentions that the second ruined temple (the one where they activate the map) was built "by an ancient people from a distant galaxy".

The witches of Dathomir, having been around for thousands of years, presumably picked up on this tech/knowledge and incorporated it into their own temple (ie the first temple where Ashoka found the map)... not unheard of in our own history. Elsbeth knows of the map as she is a Nightsister.

It's also reasonable to think that the purgils might have used the same route to go from one galaxy to the next, in much the same way that whales on Earth have migration routes that they use repeatedly... Grogu saw the purgils in hyperspace previously, which suggests that they stick to familiar routes at least part of the time.

Also, there was never any mention of Sabine's ability to use the force so why was she trained by Asohka?

Well there aren't a lot of force users around to be trained as Jedi.. the Inquisitors did too good a job...and Sabine is described by Huyang as the weakest Padawan he has ever seen..so maybe its a case of needs must.  Sabine even acknowledges in Ep 2 that she "never had the abilities".

Sabine did receive some training on the forms when she had the Dark Sabre, but hadn't been keeping up with her training with Ezra's light sabre...she hasn't shown any sign of actually using the force during the first two episode's so she hasn't gone from zero to the Chosen One.   Even if it is a plot device, it's a clever bit of writing IMHO as it puts Ashoka in the Master role showing a different side of her form the character that developed during Clone Wars.

[Malamute]

Well I enjoyed it. 

Will save episode two for tomorrow night. I am very disciplined like that.

[AKULA]

Well I enjoyed it. 

Will save episode two for tomorrow night. I am very disciplined like that.

I'm not disciplined, just rewatching both episodes 

[Malamute]

I'm not disciplined, just rewatching both episodes 

 

[AKULA]

{Episode 2 SPOILER]



Interesting comment from Hera about how things seem to work in the New Republic.


"I'm a General...nothing is classified to me"

[Lost Egg]

Thanks for your reply Akula. I've not finished the Mandalorian yet so that explains a few things. 

Well there aren't a lot of force users around to be trained as Jedi.. the Inquisitors did too good a job...and Sabine is described by Huyang as the weakest Padawan he has ever seen..so maybe its a case of needs must.  Sabine even acknowledges in Ep 2 that she "never had the abilities".

Sabine did receive some training on the forms when she had the Dark Sabre, but hadn't been keeping up with her training with Ezra's light sabre...she hasn't shown any sign of actually using the force during the first two episode's so she hasn't gone from zero to the Chosen One.   Even if it is a plot device, it's a clever bit of writing IMHO as it puts Ashoka in the Master role showing a different side of her from the character that developed during Clone Wars.

Thinking about it perhaps my issue is more to do with the flappy thread that is the Jedi after the Empire falls. There aren't meant to be too many left yet almost every post Order 66 show introduces some new ones. At the same time the needs must recruitment drive is interesting so I hope it gets explored more as the New Republic tries to fill the void left by their absence.

I did like the idea they explored in Ep2 that former Empire workers are still around, allowing for rot to fester in the New Republic. I think that could be an interesting show or is at least explored further.

[nozza_uk]

Watched last night and I've got to say I mostly enjoyed it.

As always, there's a couple of nitpicks.

Hera isn’t quite there for me (as the character from Rebels) in the same way that Sabine is.
Sabine got stabbed, but she’s fine. Getting stabbed/impaled by a lightsabre used to be a deadly affair!

BUT, Chopper is back!

[Aethelwulf]

Watched last night and I've got to say I mostly enjoyed it.

As always, there's a couple of nitpicks.

Hera isn’t quite there for me (as the character from Rebels) in the same way that Sabine is.
BUT, Chopper is back!

Hera also didn't work for me either, she just seemed a bit off.

[Daeothar]

Sabine got stabbed, but she’s fine.

It's just a fleshwound...

There's prescedent though, especially in Legends books. She was stabbed, not cut, so no loss of limbs or decapitation. A stabwound with a lightsaber, if in a non-critical area and with (near)  immediate medical attention, should be surviveable, as the wound is small and immediately cauterized. So virtually no blood loss. Also; SW medical tech is pretty advanced, and she didn't even need bacta.

The location of this particular stab, to the right side of the abdomen, missing the aorta, will cause a blockage in the intestinal tract, possibly damaging a kidney. But none of these are immediately fatal, not even when caused by a gunshot (which does cause severe bleeding; bleeding out and shock are the most dangerous effects of such a wound, both more or less absent from a lightsaber wound. It truly is an elegant weapon from a more civilized age).

So she either got lucky, or the not-so-chatty apprentice was merely aiming to maim, not kill. My bet is she got lucky though, considering the obligatory goth aura of the apprentice


I overall really enjoyed the first two episodes. They convey that Star Wars feeling, there's finally some front and center Force-f*ckery going on, and there are a lot of known characters, locations and objects to enforce (pun intended) this. I never had a connection (or lack thereof) with Ahsoka, because I never really watched Rebels or the Clone Wars, so her appearance in The Mandalorian was not a big thing for me personally. But I get that she's a big deal in those two cartoons, so I don't mind her either.

So being (almost) completely blank on her past, I can sort of watch this unbiased. And so far, I'm not disappointed!

That Sith shuttle is something that needs to be built by somebody as soon as possible though; it's pretty awesome. I nominate James...

[Malamute]

That Sith shuttle is something that needs to be built by somebody as soon as possible though; it's pretty awesome. I nominate James... 

I second that!

[zemjw]

Third on the Hera note, although I did feel she was settling into it towards the end of the second episode, so I'm hopeful. Sabine was pretty much spot on from the start.

I may be starting to understand some of what Chopper is saying, which worries me...

I felt a bit sorry for the shipyard manager who got arrested. He seemed to be genuinely unaware of what was going on, rather than actively participating like everyone else.

When they were looking at the map I kept expecting someone to say "Thrawn is in a galaxy far, far away". Seems like a missed opportunity

Overall, it lived up to my expectations and I am looking forward to the rest of the series

[zemjw]

There's a short merchandise unboxing video. Lots of lego and stuffed toys, but not much in the way of kits

[Daeothar]

Oh yeah; anyone else get the feeling that that map sphere was just a Jeu de Boules ball with some added grime and greebles? 




Cosplayers will love that easy conversion...