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Offline Harry Faversham

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Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« on: May 20, 2023, 06:15:28 AM »
I'm thinking of adding an artillery battery, to support my Nassau infantry in Papalotte. What would the artillery
men's uniform look like, what colour would the gun carriages be painted?

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Offline Diablo Jon

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2023, 08:13:44 AM »
Did they have any artillery of their own? iirc they were supported by a battery of Dutch-Belgian horse artillery at Papalotte.

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2023, 09:38:58 AM »
Did they have any artillery of their own?

No they didn't. Only infantry: Fusileers, Voltigeurs, Grenadiers.

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2023, 10:34:44 AM »
So, if I  paint up a Dutch/Belgian battery, job's a good 'un?

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2023, 11:06:25 AM »
So, if I  paint up a Dutch/Belgian battery, job's a good 'un?

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I think so.

Offline the commissar

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2023, 11:14:59 AM »
According to Scott Bowden it was Stievenart's Belgian foot battery that was attached to Saxe-Weimars brigade (6 x 6pdr and 2 x 5.5" howitzers)

It was over-run at Quatre -Bras (guns recovered later) only 2 6pdrs were in action at Waterloo (again according to Bowden)

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2023, 07:20:00 PM »
Yes, Stievenart's Netherlands Battery.  Ex-French guns, painted the same as the French.
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Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2023, 08:34:12 PM »
Stievenart's Belgian foot battery, would they have British 6pdrs. or French style gun carriages with 6pdr. guns. What colour would said carriages be painted?

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« Last Edit: May 21, 2023, 03:07:01 PM by Harry Faversham »

Offline Jemima Fawr

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2023, 11:24:45 PM »
The details are a bit vague, but according to Geert Uythoven (THE expert regarding the Netherlands Army of 1815), the Netherlands Artillery in 1815 had plenty of old Dutch artillery and more modern French Gribeauval and Year XI Pattern artillery pieces in its arsenals.  However, the old Dutch gun-carriages were in a shocking state of repair and the replacements were unsuitable, being made of weak unseasoned 'green' wood.  Therefore the guns used in 1815 were almost certainly French, with carriages still painted olive-green.  The limbers were a mixture of Dutch ('in various shades of brown') and French (green).

The Netherlands Artillery had no British artillery pieces on its books until 1826.

The Brunswick Artillery also used 'French' guns, namely Westphalian-made Year XI Pattern that were bought at auction following the Battle of Leipzig.  Again, still painted olive green.

This is very handy if you leave your guns 'loose', as you might have enough French guns in stock to equip both the French army at Waterloo AND the Dutch and Brunswickers, thus saving cash! :)

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2023, 06:23:13 AM »
JF, you iz di' man!
Thanks for that, really appreciated matey.

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2023, 07:24:32 AM »
JF, you iz di' man!
Thanks for that, really appreciated matey.

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You're welcome, though the credit belongs to Geert Uythoven, who's always been a very helpful bloke on various forums.  Back in the Dawn of the Internet, when there was NOTHING in print regarding the uniforms of the Orange-Nassau Regiment, he very kindly sent me this:


Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2023, 03:40:26 PM »
Yep, back in the day when we had to make an uneducated guess as to some  obscure uniforms!

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2023, 11:00:58 AM »
Argh! Saxe-Weimar's troops are in blue instead of the green that my other Nassau troops wear? Sigh...
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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2023, 12:01:26 PM »
Argh! Saxe-Weimar's troops are in blue instead of the green that my other Nassau troops wear? Sigh...
Ah... Er yes, sorry...   :-X  :D

It was Saxe-Weimar's own regiment and he was only in temporary command of the brigade, so he was wearing the same regimental uniform - blue coat with orange facings, red turnbacks and silver buttons.  I've got another print showing him with his headquarters staff at home, if it's any use?

A lot of people (including Perry Miniatures) have painted the regiment with red facings, thanks to a mistake in an Osprey book, where the text says orange, but the matching picture shows red!  ::)

Offline Jemima Fawr

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Re: Waterloo Nassau Artlillery question...
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2023, 07:13:54 PM »
Well if it's any use, here's Prince Bernard of Saxe-Weimar and friends:


 

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