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Offline anevilgiraffe

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #15 on: 18 October 2024, 08:20:41 AM »
they must be tiny though, being old Citadel...

Offline jon_1066

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #16 on: 18 October 2024, 08:33:32 AM »
they must be tiny though, being old Citadel...

Compared to what?  The Perry sculpted Foundry stuff will be similar sized and the newer Perry stuff may actually be a bit smaller.

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #17 on: 18 October 2024, 08:49:39 AM »
Compared to what?  The Perry sculpted Foundry stuff will be similar sized and the newer Perry stuff may actually be a bit smaller.

Indeed! And considering that Foundry are about to have a price rise, this is a great time to grab these “small”  lol classic minis!

Brilliant paintwork on these - love them!
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Offline Kanto

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #18 on: 18 October 2024, 03:47:34 PM »
Really nice painting (freehand coat of arms on chest of captain's jacket is a great touch!) and landsknecht ranges fit the bill of empire troops perfectly. Talabecland's red and yellow colour scheme has always been one I've liked a lot, such a striking combination.
Looking forward to see more!

they must be tiny though, being old Citadel...
Old Citadel stuff have loads of character, personally I'd consider size as smaller problem compared to proportions and general style of sculpting; Citadel ones are more cartoonish with big heads and hands, whereas what Perrys sculpted for Foundry (and their own ranges, of course) are way less exaggereted. Just my opinion. :)

Offline Frugalmax

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #19 on: 18 October 2024, 06:10:46 PM »
Awesome stuff- I love the old Empire guys with all of the character in their faces. I've also expanded my empire force well outside the GW/Citadel range. There are some really nice other historical and quasi-historical miniatures that fit well, and it's easy to add some bits to make historical miniatures more fantasy-esque if you want (skull on a string bit, we're looking at you). Great painting!
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Offline Metternich

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #20 on: 18 October 2024, 08:39:44 PM »
Wonderful project.  I also like using 16th century figures as Empire troops.  I also like including Landsknecht/Conquistador style Ogres in my fighting force, as they are among the toughest mercenaries the Empire can field.  Have you considered such?  Wargames Atlantic has a nice box (I have a unit, mostly in Morions) (below are not mine):

   https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61S8k1UWMOL.jpg

Offline Von Trinkenessen

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #21 on: 18 October 2024, 08:58:44 PM »
Great ideas and painting.
You might like to look at Athena miniatures Landsknects as they do some very characterful figures , also I use the Warlord games ones and some of the casting room but not all of the are good.
for bulk Old Glory and Warlord games plastics.
Steelfist do a great mix of halberds and zweihanders together with some great foot knights (reiksgard) and command figures.
Good luck with the project and keep the faith ( Taal).
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Offline Ockius

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #22 on: 18 October 2024, 09:21:24 PM »
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the encouragement!

Regarding those ex-Citadel now Foundry figures:
Size-wise they are a pretty good match for the Foundry landsknechts and also the Wargames Atlantic swordsmen I have - they aren't as small as, say, some of the Foundry medievals. I visited the Foundry shop and saw all the stuff in cabinets and noticed that at a certain point Citadel/Foundry are basically 25mm, but these are definitely 28mm. The faces and hands are huge next to some historicals (as Kanto said), so they are definitely 'heroic' and need to be in a separate unit to the historical figures I have.

I'll have them be a unit of militia in more rustic colours compared to the state troopers in uniform red and yellow.
My armies:
- Henry VIII's army (WIP) 15mm
- Ancient Germans (28mm)
- Ancient Belgae (Gauls with German allies) (28mm)
- Massilian Greeks (Greeks and Gallic mercenaries/subjects) (28mm)
- A few EI Romans (28mm)
- Handful of WW2 British (15mm)
- A load of old 1993-1999ish Warhammer Orcs and Goblins

Offline anevilgiraffe

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #23 on: 21 October 2024, 11:42:27 AM »
Regarding those ex-Citadel now Foundry figures:
Size-wise they are a pretty good match for the Foundry landsknechts and also the Wargames Atlantic swordsmen I have - they aren't as small as, say, some of the Foundry medievals. I visited the Foundry shop and saw all the stuff in cabinets and noticed that at a certain point Citadel/Foundry are basically 25mm, but these are definitely 28mm. The faces and hands are huge next to some historicals (as Kanto said), so they are definitely 'heroic' and need to be in a separate unit to the historical figures I have.

Thank you, not quite sure how that comment seemd to set folks off, but I too remember the time when Citadel were pretty much 25mm

Offline Ockius

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #24 on: 30 November 2024, 09:57:09 PM »
Two more militiamen from the ex-Citadel range produced by Foundry.

They’re a real hodge-podge. I think the danger is that they don’t look like a cohesive unit on the table when gaming, but the variety makes them well-suited to a more skirmish type game.

Offline Hitman

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #25 on: 30 November 2024, 11:03:55 PM »
Those look amazing!! Well done. You certainly mastered what I find the 2 hardest colours yo paint...red and yellow. Thanks for sharing.
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Offline Ockius

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #26 on: 01 December 2024, 08:12:02 PM »
Thanks! For red, I recommend Citadel Blood Angels Red Contrast paint - either on its own over a white/cream base coat,  or diluted a little as a wash over a red base.

Offline Frugalmax

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #27 on: 03 December 2024, 07:26:10 PM »
Very cool- also neat to see a minis from before they had strongly distinguished the Empire and Bretonnia into "renaissance fantasy" and "late middle ages fantasy" styles. Nice painting!

Offline Ockius

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #28 on: 07 August 2025, 10:45:43 AM »
Empire foot knights from a unit I’m building to field as either greatswords or Reiksguard. These are Grenadier models I believe, from whoever sells them in the UK.
They’re a little bit small compared to the Foundry, Perry and Citadels I have elsewhere, but not overly so.

Offline Ockius

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Re: Ockius’s largely non-Citadel Empire project
« Reply #29 on: 07 August 2025, 10:48:20 AM »
Citadel marauders/militia, sold by Foundry.
Each one of these has a lot of character! Highly recommended for the Oldhammer fans.

 

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