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Offline beefcake

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2024, 06:05:50 AM »
Big boomy guns that shake the earth?
Looking forward to seeing the wolf riders.
I need to find someone who makes Kev Adams style goblins for 3d printing.


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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2024, 06:22:58 AM »
Very nice! Love the bolt thrower
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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2024, 07:06:10 AM »
This army looks great! And you're not kidding- the sculptor really managed to capture the feel of the 4th edition Chaos Dwarfs and Hobgoblins really well. I think the first issue of White Dwarf I ever bought had the Chaos Dwarf army list in it, and my friend got the Death Rocket, which was the only Chaos Dwarf unit we ever had in a major "Hodgepodge of Chaos" army (before the "Rule of Cool" was a thing, there was the "Rule of this is all we can afford and we're going to say they can be in the same army"). Can't wait to see more!
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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2024, 08:53:08 AM »
Back in the day, an actual Chaos Dwarf army was way out of my league. Not to mention that all the cool kids nerds played 40K, so that's what I did as well, since I was a cool kid nerd as well :D

Seriously though; in my direct surroundings, there was nobody who actually played WHFB, so I never got into it, even though I really wanted to.

My first fancy were Wood Elves; I especially loved the Waywatchers. But I never got further than buying the army book. But then, through White Dwarf and exploring catalogues, display cabinets etc, I discovered Chaos Dwarfs, and I was sold.

I just loved the whole Sumerian/Assyrian/Babylonian style they had going, and I knew that would be the army for me.

Eventually ::)

Because it took at least one more decade before I had the disposable income to actually start collecting the beginnings of an army. Sadly, that coincided with the whole Ebay Chaos Dwarf incident, so things got expensive extremely fast , which put a bit of a brake on the whole project again. This was around 2004-ish if I recall correctly.

For those that don't know about this, in short: Chaos Dwarf miniatures were hecka cheap back in those days. I'm talking about GBP1,- per metal miniature, sometimes, in large batches, even less. The plastic rank and file fillers were often just 50p a piece; they were just not a very popular army (never really were I understand, but why?)

So a couple of entrepeneurish type started buying up every last Chaos Dwarf miniature on Ebay. Shipping was still really cheap back in those days and customs tarifs were only there for large purchases, so they accumulated literal tons of Chaos Dwarfs, Hobgoblins etc for extremely cheap in a very short span. This probably took a year or so? Then they left a bleak, Chaos Dwarf-less Ebay landscape to simmer for a bit, before putting their stock up on Ebay at ridiculously inflated prices. They used multiple/many accounts for this and made an absolute killing.

See; other sellers would check going rates before putting up their auctions, and obviously followed suit, and this ensured that prices would remain that high, because nobody wanted to miss out on a huge profit of course.

They singlehandedly f*cked up a previously sensible and friendly market. It opened the door for recasters, scalpers and market-savvy types to use and abuse the marketplace, which has never been the same since. Because these practices were also tried on other ranges, be it a lot less succesful. Bottom line is that prices were inflated, and never dropped down to previous levels.

It cause quite the storm back in the day, but yeah; there it is. The reason I could not get started on my own CD army. But I kept my eyes open and when the occasional (relative) bargain came along, I scooped it up. And slowly, but surely, my stock grew to the point where I would be able to put together an actual army.

Which I obviously still haven't been able to accomplish due to butterfly syndrome ::)

What I did do was paint up an initial goblin slave unit (a block of Skull Pass Night Goblins). And then another, and then another, until I realized I was now actually building a Night Goblin army lol

I do have a unit of Chaos Dwarf infantry in my cabinet of shame, started, but never finished. I should get cracking one of these days...

I really love what you've done with your printed army. Had the technology been available at the time, I would have gone that route too; quite a bit cheaper and lighter I reckon! The sculpts indeed fit almost seamlessly with the original ones. If I'm ever short on certain miniatures, I will check out this sculptor too.

I take it he's also active on Chaos Dwarfs Online?

Anyway; can't wait to see what you'll do with the larger units such as Bull Centaurs and the artillery train :)
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Offline beefcake

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2024, 09:06:44 AM »

For those that don't know about this, in short: Chaos Dwarf miniatures were hecka cheap back in those days. I'm talking about GBP1,- per metal miniature, sometimes, in large batches, even less. The plastic rank and file fillers were often just 50p a piece; they were just not a very popular army (never really were I understand, but why?)

So a couple of entrepeneurish type started buying up every last Chaos Dwarf miniature on Ebay. Shipping was still really cheap back in those days and customs tarifs were only there for large purchases, so they accumulated literal tons of Chaos Dwarfs, Hobgoblins etc for extremely cheap in a very short span. This probably took a year or so? Then they left a bleak, Chaos Dwarf-less Ebay landscape to simmer for a bit, before putting their stock up on Ebay at ridiculously inflated prices. They used multiple/many accounts for this and made an absolute killing.

See; other sellers would check going rates before putting up their auctions, and obviously followed suit, and this ensured that prices would remain that high, because nobody wanted to miss out on a huge profit of course.

They singlehandedly f*cked up a previously sensible and friendly market. It opened the door for recasters, scalpers and market-savvy types to use and abuse the marketplace, which has never been the same since. Because these practices were also tried on other ranges, be it a lot less succesful. Bottom line is that prices were inflated, and never dropped down to previous levels.

Those B@$7@&d$. Good idea I guess but wrecked it for your everyday hobbyist.

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2024, 11:38:07 AM »
Bit late to this thread - I really like the paint jobs you have done on these figures so far. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the army come together
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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2024, 12:07:23 PM »

Gorgeous work Elbows, and lovely to see some Big Hats around here! This is one of those occasions where 3D printing shines - filling spaces otherwise occupied by eye watering prices.

Lovely painting and basing, mate.

Offline Elbows

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2024, 03:04:08 PM »
Thanks for all the comments!

I hadn't heard of the Chaos Dwarf eBay incident, but that doesn't surprise me at all.  This whole army just came along at the right time...and ticks all the boxes.

1) Weird and rare.
2) 'Affordable' (I wouldn't say cheap, but compared to comical eBay prices...quite)
3) Consisting of two races it gives me a nice variety to paint
4) Just different enough to the other 350+ minis I've painted for the game so far
5) Happens to have units which more or less cover almost all of the unit types available in FSF...so that worked a treat.
6) Wonderful sculpts that are fun to paint.
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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2024, 03:06:04 PM »
This army looks great! And you're not kidding- the sculptor really managed to capture the feel of the 4th edition Chaos Dwarfs and Hobgoblins really well. I think the first issue of White Dwarf I ever bought had the Chaos Dwarf army list in it, and my friend got the Death Rocket, which was the only Chaos Dwarf unit we ever had in a major "Hodgepodge of Chaos" army (before the "Rule of Cool" was a thing, there was the "Rule of this is all we can afford and we're going to say they can be in the same army"). Can't wait to see more!

100%.  I have pictures (actual film!) somewhere of my 2nd edition army from high school.  Units of 3-5 Eldar aspect warriors, maybe 10 guardians, a few war walkers and dreadnoughts, a random Space Wolf terminator squad, a single Leman Russ and a squad of Valhallan Imperial Guard (the latter three being gifts from relatives who didn't understand what I played, lol).  Rather sad that GW has abandoned the 'kid with pocket money' customer.

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2024, 06:44:21 AM »
Incredible work! Always loved those 4th edition Chaos Dwarfs!
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Offline beefcake

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2024, 07:00:57 AM »
  Rather sad that GW has abandoned the 'kid with pocket money' customer.
Kid using second mortgage to fund plastic addiction?

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2024, 08:42:32 AM »
Lovely stuff, the old GW Hobgoblins remain one of my favourite units. Must find those Chaos Dwarfs.

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2024, 08:46:06 AM »
the hobgoblins are nice, pity there's not more variety for command figures.

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2024, 09:07:09 AM »
Lovely stuff, the old GW Hobgoblins remain one of my favourite units. Must find those Chaos Dwarfs.

Mine too. Especially Sneaky Gitz.  :D 

The whole Lap Around rule was just so characterful, and I lament its passing in younger editions of WHFB. It has not been replicated in other rules sets either.

Which is a bummer, because I would have really liked using those rules in an actual game one day... ::)

Offline Elbows

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Re: They came from the Dark Lands...(Chaos Dwarf project)
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2024, 03:58:42 PM »
the hobgoblins are nice, pity there's not more variety for command figures.

There are a handful out there of remixed models by some other users, but yeah, I can cope since I am only using 2-3 units.  I mean...heck, the core Hobgoblins are only three poses :D

 

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